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Nepoznati kaže:

Ismijavanje vjerskih nonsensa zapravo pomaže vjerniku da se pročisti i orjentira.

Ismijavanje bilo čijih grupnih stavova i uvjerenja, 'izvana', učvršćuje te iste stavove i uvjerenja.

Nikakvo nasilno mijenjanje ne može učniti ništa bitno niti trajno. To je unutarnja i osobna odluka.

Da...

Humanistički pristup daje svima mogućnost da dođu do informacija, čak i preko ismijavanja. Nisu vjernici od šećera, da će se odmah rastopiti od očaja ako netko ismijava čudnovate dogme u Djevice i krilate konje, u koje su ih uveli još dok su većinom bili djeca.

Informacije se tretiraju kao dezinformacije kada se onaj tko ih plasira smatra neprijateljem. Izrugivanje od strane 'drugih' smatra se 'benignom' formom agresije.
'Dobre namjere' vide se kao forma hipokrizije.

Ne radi se o tome tko od vjernika (ili bilo tko drugi) jest ili nije od šećera, već o efektu ismijavanja.
U biti, držim da niti nije namjera Dawkinsa da 'uvjeri i prosvijetli napaćene vjernike', već nešto drugo... na najprizemnijoj razini, prodaja vlastitih umotvorina, npr.

Najnetolerantnije su religije, jer drže da su Boga uhvatili za...bradu, i imaju najveću puninu spoznaje i istine. A oni ostali su od "iskonskoga zloga" i idu putem prema vječnom gorućem jezeru.

Sekularizam je rješenje.

Najnetolerantnije su religije jer... "par prikladno sročenih fraza".

A tek sekularizam... znaš li što taj pojam zapravo znači ?

Ovdje je prilično korektno navedeno...

What Does Secular Mean?

Despite widespread confusion, secularism is not synonymous with atheism. So what is secularism? The National Secular Society explains it quite well when they note that secularism "is a principle that involves two basic propositions." The two propositions are as follows:

1.There must be strict separation between church and state, and
2.People of various religious beliefs (including those with no religious beliefs at all) must be equal under the law.

Right. Secularism is about the separation of church and state. Someone advocating secularism is seeking government neutrality on matters of religion. One can be a religious believer and support secularism. And fortunately, many religious believers do so. They recognize that secularism is good for them too.

Where things get tricky is when we stop talking about the principle of secularism and start talking about people. When a person identifies himself or herself as "secular," he or she may be communicating one of at least two fairly different things. First, identifying oneself as secular may mean that one supports secularism as defined above. That is, I advocate secularism and therefore identify myself as being secular. As noted above, this does not necessarily mean that I am not a religious believer. Second, identifying oneself as secular may mean that one is not religious. Used this way, someone could be non-religious but support state intervention aimed at eradicating religion, which would hardly be consistent with secularism.

In my experience, "secular" is most often used by people to describe themselves or others as non-religious. Thus, one often hears the term used to describe atheists, humanists, freethinkers, and anyone else we might characterize as non-religious. But this is an interesting case where different uses of "secular" and "secularism" can lead to some confusion. Just because someone identifies as secular does not necessarily mean that he or she supports separation of church and state. And just because someone identifies as secular does not necessarily mean that he or she is not religious.