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Old 20.08.2017., 00:29   #3481
C'mon!

Ok,as I said there is no sens(really) to hope anything by these situations, so let's agree to disagree!
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Old 20.08.2017., 19:00   #3482
Interesting!

Comparison of births in Montenegro with Albanians in Macedonia:

Montenegro:

2012-7,459
2013-7,475
2014-7,529
2015-7,386
2016-7,569

Albanians in Macedonia:

2012-8,035
2013-8,137
2014-7,905
2015-7,604
2016-7,774
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Old 23.08.2017., 13:31   #3483
I sta si time hteo reci. CG je suverena samostalna drzava, dok su Alb. u Mkd. MANJINA, dosta obespravljena, i pod udarom iseljavalja i pada.
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Old 26.08.2017., 19:42   #3484
Zivorodjeni-umrli I-VI 2017.. I-VI 2016.. I-VI 2015 .... I-VI 2014 ..... I-VI 2013



Makedonija: 10545-10676.. 11096-10272.. 11.267-10.801 ..11.444-10.051 .. 10.867-9.598

Skopje: 3109-2784.. 3394-2709.. 3.302-2.731 .... 3.253-2.565 ..... 3.156-2.395

Aerodrom..........397-375.. 434-349.. 422-357 .... 416-334 ..... 352-299
Butel ...............202-192.. 235-188.. 262-179 .... 206-168 ..... 221-156
Gazi Baba.......... 358-404.. 427-353.. 388-376 .... 423-336 ..... 431-362
Gjorce Petrov ..... 202-208.. 222-246.. 219-223 .... 237-228 ..... 209-190
Karposh .............278-391.. 278-378 .... 286-380 ..... 283-318 … 251-337
Kisela Voda......... 302-352.. 284-372.. 294-321 .... 271-315 ..... 285-313
Saraj .................314-114.. 317-102.. 332-108 .... 318-115 ..... 313-104
Centar ............... 379-338.. 431-340.. 385-307 .... 346-316 ..... 341-297
Cair ................. 481-302.. 538-305.. 499-314 .... 519-282 ..... 494-277
Shuto Orizari........ 196-108.. 228-76.. 190-92 .... 231-91 ..... 227-79 ...(232-87)

Aracinovo ............104-24.. 83-20.. 101-27 .... 108-28 ..... 102-31
Berovo ................ 51-81.. 40-42.. 52-92 .... 53-81 ..... 53-76
Bitola ................ 412-620.. 479-613.. 431-647 .... 467-603 ..... 426-549
Bogdanci .............. 34-73.. 30-39.. 33-69 .... 24-44 ..... 31-41
Bogovinje ............ 129-110.. 155-102.. 162-120 .... 178-84 ..... 161-104
Bosilovo .............. 47-81.. 57-85..70-74 .... 58-79 ..... 61-59
Brvenica .............. 85-60.. 74-69.. 76-78 .... 73-55 ..... 80-56
Valandovo ............ 62-58.. 61-66.. 52-72 .... 49-79 ..... 40-63
Vasilevo .............. 70-51.. 68-50 .... 74-57 ..... 86-52 … 85-54
Vevcani ............... 8-18.. 10-14.. 10-9 .... 12-17 ..... 5-14
Veles ................. 265-305.. 258-327.. 238-346 .... 281-327 ..... 250-330
Vinica ................ 74-111.. 74-90.. 90-93 .... 77-113 ..... 63-84
Vrapcishte ............ 107-108.. 94-95.. 108-95 .... 114-83 ..... 119-92
Gevgelija ............. 110-149.. 123-125.. 102-151 .... 99-129 ..... 108-117
Gostivar .............. 332-358.. 357-282.. 426-328 .... 418-320 ..... 412-294
Gradsko ............... 18-19.. 27-30.. 24-22 .... 20-22 ..... 14-17
Debar ................. 101-60.. 101-60 122-52 .... 143-70 ..... 134-73
Debarca ............... 15-63.. 15-43.. 11-45 .... 15-38 ..... 9-41
Delcevo ............... 65-105.. 58-113.. 67-93 .... 61-98 ..... 47-104
Demir Kapija .......... 20-31.. 22-23.. 25-37 .... 18-39 ..... 22-23
Demir Hisar ........... 26-63.. 29-73.. 25-65 .... 30-77 ..... 25-74
Dojran ................ 10-26.. 17-21 .... 13-22 ...... 19-20
Dolneni ............... 90-90.. 87-77 .... 120-78 ..... 104-76
Zelino ................ 148-81.. 155-75 .... 202-69 ..... 157-64
Zelenikovo ............ 40-15.. 37-15 .... 42-15 ..... 29-12
Zrnovci ............... 7-15.. 9-14.. 9-15 .... 16-10 ..... 8-12
Ilinden ............... 78-81.. 99-97.. 102-72 .... 88-73 ..... 75-66
Jegunovce ............ 49-70.. 50-58 .... 44-51 ..... 49-62
Kavadarci ............ 204-204.. 178-205.. 224-226 .... 191-225 ..... 200-233
Karbinci .............. 31-30.. 27-23.. 23-38 .... 27-34 ..... 23-22
Kicevo ................205-251.. 212-242.. 225-274 ....208-235
Konce ................. 12-15.. 20-18.. 18-17 .... 22-11 ..... 12-12
Kocani ................ 136-203.. 169-195.. 150-209 .... 154-202 ..... 149-209
Kratovo ............... 26-56.. 29-62.. 40-62 .... 34-49 ..... 40-55
Kriva Palanka ......... 74-105.. 85-91.. 88-107 .... 98-101 ..... 85-98
Krivogashtani .......... 22-49.. 30-45.. 30-58 .... 24-34 ..... 33-44
Krushevo ............... 41-63.. 57-68.. 52-59 .... 51-55 ...... 59-47
Kumanovo ............. 587-529.. 557-531.. 554-576 .... 688-523 ..... 621-504
Lipkovo ............... 178-80.. 169-93.. 155-92 .... 164-74 ..... 192-62
Lozovo ................ 10-22.. 14-19.. 17-21 .... 18-14 ..... 13-15
Mavrovo ............... 34-30.. 28-40.. 29-32 .... 44-38 ..... 39-32
Mak.Kamenica ..... 22-40.. 32-38.. 22-36 .... 28-31 ..... 27-32
Mak.Brod ............. 30-49.. 18-60.. 26-52 .... 22-53 ..... 13-45
Mogila ............... 26-66.. 26-53.. 31-56 ..... 23-56 ..... 28-39
Negotino ............. 94-101.. 86-112.. 109-97 .... 102-100 ..... 97-98
Novaci ............... 10-21.. 15-37.. 20-39 .... 14-40 ..... 15-37
Novo Selo ............ 21-74.. 28-71.. 29-76 .... 31-56 ..... 46-68
Ohrid ................. 297-328.. 304-317.. 274-324 .... 275-303 ..... 235-288
Petrovec .............. 52-41.. 61-46.. 45-45 .... 67-47 ..... 67-32
Pehcevo ............... 11-51.. 14-40.. 23-46 .... 20-37 ..... 25-30
Plasnica .............. 17-22.. 23-21 .... 34-23 ..... 31-11
Prilep ................ 329-490.. 347-461.. 372-503 .... 394-446 ..... 343-450
Probishtip ............. 51-102.. 55-91.. 58-100 .... 56-97 ..... 50 - 63
Radovish ............... 139-132.. 152-134.. 188-130 .... 177-132 ..... 178 - 126
Rankovce .............. 20-33.. 18-30.. 19-21 .... 7-33 ..... 15 - 24
Resen ................. 60-116.. 66-117.. 66-105 .... 72-122 ..... 71 - 107
Rosoman ............... 15-17.. 21-34. 33-36 .... 24-28 ..... 13 - 13
Sveti Nikole .......... 75-119.. 74-100.. 83-104 .... 65-108 ..... 85 - 91
Sopishte ............... 48-31.. 48-28.. 50-17 .... 56-28 ..... 59 - 28
Staro Nagoricane ...... 18-43.. 22-47.. 17-53 .... 25-48 ..... 11-46
Struga ................ 334-256.. 370-193.. 352-259 .... 349-227 ..... 293-216
Strumica .............. 294-302.. 319-295.. 343-318 .... 337-277 ..... 316-263
Studenicani ........... 239-54-.. 235-55.. 254-57 .... 238-63 ..... 226-43
Tearce ................ 124-78.. 114-76.. 104-76 .... 117-82 ..... 119-97
Tetovo ................ 552-356.. 575-352.. 604-406 .... 580-344 ..... 561-366
Centar Zupa ........... 23-18.. 26-14.. 26-12 .... 37-20 ..... 22-7
Caska ................. 70-38.. 69-40.. 70-47 .... 77-40 ..... 76-47
Cesinovo .............. 24-40.. 35-47.. 23-51 .... 13-48 ..... 23-41
Cucer Sandevo ......... 80-45.. 86-34.. 61-41 .... 72-35 ..... 68-41
Shtip .................. 244-264.. 224-241 235-261 .... 250-220 ..... 237-273
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Old 26.08.2017., 22:02   #3485
Da li mi mozes dati korekcije (preliminarnih-konacnih) zivorodjenih i umrlih za ove navedene godine?
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Old 27.08.2017., 16:43   #3486
Why is there so much decrease in the number of births ?!
emigration ?!
I know that Macedonians now emigrate more than Albanians (in number),but there is a decline in births number in the Albanian part too!!!
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Old 27.08.2017., 17:13   #3487
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Why is there so much decrease in the number of births ?!
emigration ?!
I know that Macedonians now emigrate more than Albanians (in number),but there is a decline in births number in the Albanian part too!!!
It is because of the heavy crisis we had for almost 3 years. Next year should be much better. The drop among Macedonians is due to smaller fertile generations. I can not explain the Albanians. They should have been at the pick of births this last two years. It seems they are loosing all chances to put the Macedonian births below 50%. However I expect increase for next year especially on the Macedonian side. They have been fighting literally on the streets for two years. My predictions is that the total number of births will be stable at around 22K+ at least until 2021. The world bank expended the prediction for postie natural increase from 2019 to 2023. Macedonians emigration can be compensated with TFR improvement. Macedonians are now at around 1.65-1.70 births a woman. They have room to improve. Albanians TFR is drooping as they move in to the cities and get better education.
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Old 27.08.2017., 19:42   #3488
Molio bih ozbiljne članova ovog foruma da zanemare postove postove ovog tipa koji piše na engleskom,i da nastave da pišu na jeziku koji su pisali do sada, a on neka otvara teme na forumima na engleskom jeziku.
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Old 28.08.2017., 17:09   #3489
Starosna struktura po popis 2002

-Makedoncima su dodati Srbi i Vlasi
-Albancima su oduzeti albanizirani Torbeshi

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Pravoslavni: 1.310.018 (64,77%)..... Albanski maternji jezik: 507.989 (25,12%)

0-4: 63.229 ................. 42.698

5-9: 73.884 ................. 51.578

10-14: 86.952 .............. 53.447 (sad imaju 25-29)

15-19: 98.253 .............. 48.248 (sad 30-34)

20-24: 99.749 ...............44.452 (sad 35-39 godina)

25-29: 93.766 ...............43.407

30-34: 90.265 ...............42.849

35-39: 95.076 ...............39.787

40-44: 99.605 ...............32.745

45-49: 104.849 ..............25.109

50-54: 98.033 ...............19.697

55-59: 71.230 ...............16.534

60-64: 67.645 ...............15.335

65-69: 65.223 ................13.124

70-74: 48.099 ................9.564

75-79: 32.844 ................5.011

80-84: 15.543 ................2.342

85+: 6042 ......................1.477

nepoznato: 397 ...............585
2017 ta godina mozemo reci da pocinje nepovratni pad rodjenih kod makedonce...Albanci ako ne drugo ostace bar stabilni,svakako ce povecavati udeo kod rodjenih...mogu dostici i do 40% samo za odrzavanje trenutni broj rodjenih...
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Old 29.08.2017., 11:47   #3490
Vo vtor kvartal 2017 god u opstina Lipkovo imalo 102 zivoredeni sta je povise od Rosoman, Pehcevo, Lozovo, Konce, Zrnovci, Dojran, Debarca, Vevcani, Novaci zajedno, vo koi opstini istiot period imamo ukupno 98 zivoredeni.


Во второто тримесечје од 2017 година во општината Липково имало 102 новороденчиња што е повеќе отколку во Rosoman, Pehcevo, Lozovo, Konce, Zrnovci, Dojran, Debarca, Vevcani, Novaci каде што во истиот период се родиле вкупно 98 новороденчиња.
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Old 02.09.2017., 14:32   #3491
Ucenici u osnovnim skolama

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2006/2007

Ukupno: 228,207
Makedonci: 122,016 = 53.46%
Albanci: 78,467 = 34.38%
Srbi: 2,242
Vlasi: 406

2007/2008

Ukupno: 220,833
Makedonci: 118,507 = 53.66%
Albanci: 75,141 = 34.02%
Srbi: 2,076
Vlasi: 366

2008/2009

Ukupno: 215,078
Makedonci: 115,605 = 53.75%
Albanci: 72,570 = 33.74%
Srbi: 1,943
Vlasi: 353

2009/2010

Ukupno: 208,980
Makedonci: 112,293 = 53.73%
Albanci: 69,922 = 33.45%
Srbi: 1,871
Vlasi: 400

2010/2011

Ukupno: 201,914
Makedonci: 109,765 = 54.36%
Albanci: 66,156 = 32.76%
Srbi: 1,733
Vlasi: 316

2011/2012

Ukupno: 197,859
Makedonci: 107,564 = 54.36%
Albanci: 65,085 = 32.89%
Srbi: 1,730
Vlasi: 351

2012/2013

Ukupno: 194,055
Makedonci: 105,468 = 54.34%
Albanci: 63,483 = 32.71%
Srbi: 1,622
Vlasi: 310

2013/2014

Ukupno: 190,541
Makedonci: 104,254 = 54.71%
Albanci: 62,188 = 32.63%
Srbi: 1,486
Vlasi: 324

2014/2015

Ukupno: 188,361
Makedonci: 103,036 = 54.70%
Albanci: 62,012 = 32.92%
Srbi: 1,401
Vlasi: 296

2015/2016

Ukupno: 185,119
Makedonci: 102,644 = 55.44%
Albanci: 60,127 = 32.48%
Srbi: 1,242
Vlasi: 284
Po ovim podaci kao i podaci za roidjenih,dolazimo do zakljucak da udeo Albanaca u naselenje 0-26 godina je 33%.
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Old 04.09.2017., 18:44   #3492
Number of students in elementary schools in Skopje(2015-16):52.208

Macedonian & Co - 25.726 (49.27%)

Albanians - 26.482 (50.73%)

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Old 04.09.2017., 22:53   #3493
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Number of students in elementary schools in Skopje(2015-16):52.208

Macedonian & Co - 25.726 (49.27%)

Albanians - 26.482 (50.73%)

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Old 05.09.2017., 02:11   #3494
Ucenici u osnovnim skolama

Skopje 2015/2016

Ukupno: 52,377

Makedonci: 29,008 = 55.38%
Albanci: 16,839 = 32.14%
Srbi: 214
Vlasi: 48
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Old 07.09.2017., 10:19   #3495
U.godina / Skola / oddelenia / ucenici / nastavnici



2011/2012 / 986 / 10.685 / 197.856 / 15.220
2012/2013 / 990 / 10.657 / 194.055 / 15.233
2013/2014 / 990 / 10.664 / 190.541 / 15.382
2014/2015 / 989 / 10.689 / 188.361 / 15.427
2015/2016 / 990 / 10.621 / 185.119 / 15.520
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Old 03.10.2017., 00:35   #3496
Makedonija Rogeni-Umreni=Prirastaj (2o17/2016)

2017: 12444 - 12313 = 131
2016: 13195 - 11842 = 1353

Razlika: Rogeni ... Umreni ... Prirastaj

2017/2016 -751 +471 -1222


Ovo bice najcrna godina i istorij Makedonije. Ipak ostaje u Plus. Kao sta sam predvideo, velika kriza uzima ceh. Makedonci oko 11500... Mkd 22300...
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Old 03.10.2017., 01:16   #3497
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Makedonija Rogeni-Umreni=Prirastaj (2o17/2016)

2017: 12444 - 12313 = 131
2016: 13195 - 11842 = 1353

Razlika: Rogeni ... Umreni ... Prirastaj

2017/2016 -751 +471 -1222


Ovo bice najcrna godina i istorij Makedonije. Ipak ostaje u Plus. Kao sta sam predvideo, velika kriza uzima ceh. Makedonci oko 11500... Mkd 22300...
Prošle godine su imali 23 002 rođenih..Već sada uz iste brojke do kraja imaju 22 251 rođenih. Vjerojatno će ta brojka još pasti do kraja godine tako da dajem 22 050 rođenih, a moguće da skliznu ispod 22 tisuće.
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Old 03.10.2017., 02:37   #3498
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Makedonija Rogeni-Umreni=Prirastaj (2o17/2016)

2017: 12444 - 12313 = 131
2016: 13195 - 11842 = 1353

Razlika: Rogeni ... Umreni ... Prirastaj

2017/2016 -751 +471 -1222


Ovo bice najcrna godina i istorij Makedonije. Ipak ostaje u Plus. Kao sta sam predvideo, velika kriza uzima ceh. Makedonci oko 11500... Mkd 22300...
Politicka kriza da se odrazava na rodjene?

Pre da je zbog toga sto makedoncima opada vitalna baza

Pravoslavni: 1.310.018 (64,77%)..... Albanski maternji jezik: 507.989 (25,12%)

0-4: 63.229 ................. 42.698

5-9: 73.884 ................. 51.578 (sada 20-24)

10-14: 86.952 .............. 53.447 (sada 25-29)

15-19: 98.253 .............. 48.248 (sada 30-34)

20-24: 99.749 ...............44.452 (sada 35-39)

25-29: 93.766 ...............43.407

30-34: 90.265 ...............42.849

35-39: 95.076 ...............39.787

40-44: 99.605 ...............32.745

45-49: 104.849 ..............25.109

50-54: 98.033 ...............19.697

55-59: 71.230 ...............16.534

60-64: 67.645 ...............15.335

65-69: 65.223 ................13.124

70-74: 48.099 ................9.564

75-79: 32.844 ................5.011

80-84: 15.543 ................2.342

85+: 6042 ......................1.477

nepoznato: 397 ...............585
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Old 03.10.2017., 22:56   #3499
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Politicka kriza da se odrazava na rodjene?

Pre da je zbog toga sto makedoncima opada vitalna baza

Pravoslavni: 1.310.018 (64,77%)..... Albanski maternji jezik: 507.989 (25,12%)

0-4: 63.229 ................. 42.698

5-9: 73.884 ................. 51.578 (sada 20-24)

10-14: 86.952 .............. 53.447 (sada 25-29)

15-19: 98.253 .............. 48.248 (sada 30-34)

20-24: 99.749 ...............44.452 (sada 35-39)

25-29: 93.766 ...............43.407

30-34: 90.265 ...............42.849

35-39: 95.076 ...............39.787

40-44: 99.605 ...............32.745

45-49: 104.849 ..............25.109

50-54: 98.033 ...............19.697

55-59: 71.230 ...............16.534

60-64: 67.645 ...............15.335

65-69: 65.223 ................13.124

70-74: 48.099 ................9.564

75-79: 32.844 ................5.011

80-84: 15.543 ................2.342

85+: 6042 ......................1.477

nepoznato: 397 ...............585
Baza pada ali ove brojke ni su realne. zaboravljas da imamo 15 godina iseljavanje i sumljiv popis u 2002. Realno stanovnisto makedonije je 1,75-1,80 mil. Nisam siguran da ove brojke drze vode da nesto otome pricamo. Kako vidim Makedonci se dobro drze. Nece ova biti samo zbog pad bazu Makedonca. Mislam da 2018 bice bolje od 2017.
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Old 20.10.2017., 05:25   #3500
Izbori, Albanci po opstinama.

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