"Vjerujem" vs "znam" - problemi pri prijevodu s engleskog na hrvatski

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Ne počiva sve na znanosti. Sve počiva na jeziku. I znanost, i umjetnost, i komunikacija. Sve. Stoga je pokušaj preslikavanja znanosti na jezik pokušaj preslikavanja s vrste na rod, s nižeg pojma na viši. Ne ide.

[pećina]

stitch kaže:

Ne počiva sve na znanosti. Sve počiva na jeziku. I znanost, i umjetnost, i komunikacija. Sve. Stoga je pokušaj preslikavanja znanosti na jezik pokušaj preslikavanja s vrste na rod, s nižeg pojma na viši. Ne ide.

Mislio sam da znanost počiva na matematici koja je rigorozna i ne dopušta intepretacije. Zato kolokvijalizmi i trivijalizacije znanstvenih teorija poput big banga, crnih rupa, crvotočina, etc. je više loših stvari donijela nego pozitivnih

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Znanost nije samo fizika.

[pećina]

stitch kaže:

Znanost nije samo fizika.

Ima u svakoj sferi znanosti zloupotrebe pojmova, namjerno i nenamjerno. Equvivocation je logička greška koju ljudi non stop čine. Zato je bitno razdvojiti riječ vjerovati na onu koja je dogmatična i ona koja je aksiomatska.

[virgils]

pećina kaže:

Mislio sam da znanost počiva na matematici koja je rigorozna i ne dopušta intepretacije.

So you think mathematics exists outside of the human mind?

[pećina]

virgils kaže:

So you think mathematics exists outside of the human mind?

Ne baš, omnia apud me mathematica fiunt

[virgils]

All knowledge is the product of the human mind and human experience. Our physical structure (body, mind) must play a huge role in how we perceive the universe and the patterns we impose on it in order to make it accessible. We have no way of determining what the universe and everything in it would be like if we vanished or never existed.

There is no such thing as absolute or objective knowledge. All knowledge is subjective. There is, at least in theory, absolute subjectivity, meaning whatever we all agree on is absolutely subjective.

[pećina]

virgils kaže:

All knowledge is the product of the human mind and human experience. Our physical structure (body, mind) must play a huge role in how we perceive the universe and the patterns we impose on it in order to make it accessible. We have no way of determining what the universe and everything in it would be like if we vanished or never existed.

There is no such thing as absolute or objective knowledge. All knowledge is subjective. There is, at least in theory, absolute subjectivity, meaning whatever we all agree on is absolutely subjective.

Does it matter, really? If it works, who cares. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

[virgils]

It does matter.

Much mischief has been caused by belief in "objective reality", not least concerning religious matters.

[pećina]

virgils kaže:

It does matter.

Much mischief has been caused by belief in "objective reality", not least concerning religious matters.

Kad? Kad je to uvjerenje da je realnost objektivna i upravo takva bila temelj za mischief? Ne vidim na što ciljaš...

[virgils]

American movie and TV personalities (Whoopi Goldberg, Barbara Walters, Sherri Shepherd, and others I don't recognize) discuss the difficulties in determining whether or not the Earth is flat:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9ACobXN7_p8

[Davor000]

virgils kaže:

American movie and TV personalities (Whoopi Goldberg, Barbara Walters, Sherri Shepherd, and others I don't recognize) discuss the difficulties in determining whether or not the Earth is flat:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9ACobXN7_p8

OMG, jesu li ove lude?

[virgils]

Regrettably, they are representative of American mainstream opinion on such matters.

[Davor000]

virgils kaže:

Regrettably, they are representative of American mainstream opinion on such matters.

What about Bill O'Reilly? http://youtube.com/watch?v=DJvY_RftA4I

[virgils]

O'Reilly fucked'er.