Izbor za najbolju pjesmu svih vremena - Stranica 3

Pangloss · 24.10.2014., 00:01

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Psychedelik kaže:

RUNDA 2: 1950-e i 1960-e

Now we're talkin'.

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Grimble Gromble kaže:

Za to će se pobrinuti Pangloss i regrutirat ekipu s 80-tih.

Nemam ja što regrutirati, neka dođu ako hoće. Valjda nisu baš toliko zacementirani u tu dekadu.

Evo old-soul nije.

Pangloss · 24.10.2014., 00:29

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Grimble Gromble kaže:

U prvom krugu 4 runde? To znači da imamo još 3 runde pedesetih i šezdesetih? Ili sam ja nešto krivo shvatio? Recimo da sam u pravu. I odradimo po 4 runde za svaku dekadu, zaključno s 2010., šta onda? Random kostur ili imaš nekakvu ideju?

Ne, ovih 15 koje su prošle dalje iz svake dekade se bore sa drugih 15 iz druge dekade (vjerojatno ove koja je s njom u paru). Vjerojatno bez kriterija koja stvar ide na koju, recimo po redu. Pa onda opet pobjedničkih 15 možda recimo na 15 najboljih iz 30-ih/40-ih. I na kraju nam onda ostaje 15 od kojih se bira najbolja.

Možda bi se mogao ubaciti još jedan lucky loser taman da možemo napraviti kostur od osmine finala do finala, kao u nogometu recimo.

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Btw, ako se skupi dovoljno ljudi da ova tema zaživi, lako se naknadno mogu odraditi tridesete i četrdesete.

E to. Ja zaboravio glasovati kod 30-ih i 40-ih.

A stvarno sam mislio. Pa ne bi bilo loše ponoviti tu rundu, pogotovo ako se tema pokrene.

Btw. sad kad se pogleda, 30 je stvarno malo, pogotovo što budemo išli dalje. Puno se stvari koje zaslužuju biti ovdje negdje izostavlja i to tako mora biti zasad, ali se u budućnosti može ispraviti. I još kako je svaki izbor nesavršen tako se čak i ovdje znaju izostaviti neke koje se nikako ne smiju izostaviti, evo "Yesterday" recimo (bar po meni). A i meni kao i Gnomeu fali "Stand by Me".

Tako da, bude li interesa od strane forumaša i začetnika teme, nakon ovih 8x30 stvari možemo odraditi još jedan krug (ili više) po svim dekadama opet ispočetka s drugim pjesmama. Ili, jasno, recimo odmah sad kod ovih 2x30 za koje trenutno glasujemo zaustaviti se malo na tome i iscrpiti te dekade možda još više (još zagrebati ali opet ne baš previše u dubinu) pa onda prijeći na 70-e i dalje.

Bio je svojevremeno na Offtopic pdf-u izbor najboljeg glumca (jesu li ono bili de Niro i Nicholson u finalu?

ili Pacino?

) i filma i raznih stvari drugih. Uglavnom, htjedoh reći da je takav izbor puno, možda i nemjerljivo lakši. Ne mislim izbor među glumcima nego odabir top 15, 30 ili 100 koji će ući u glasovanje. Pandan tome bi ovdje možda bio izbor među izvođačima. A ovako kad se biraju pjesme to su muke Tantalove.

Ali ugodne barem.

Grimble Gromble · 24.10.2014., 01:09

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Pangloss kaže:

Tako da, bude li interesa od strane forumaša i začetnika teme, nakon ovih 8x30 stvari možemo odraditi još jedan krug (ili više) po svim dekadama opet ispočetka s drugim pjesmama. Ili, jasno, recimo odmah sad kod ovih 2x30 za koje trenutno glasujemo zaustaviti se malo na tome i iscrpiti te dekade možda još više (još zagrebati ali opet ne baš previše u dubinu) pa onda prijeći na 70-e i dalje.

Na koji način proširiti izbor od ova dva, meni tak svejedno.

dplazin2 · 25.10.2014., 13:40

1950-1959

Jerry Lee Lewis - Great Balls of Fire VS Bo Diddley - Who Do You Love
Ritchie Valens - La Bamba VS The Everly Brothers - Wake Up Little Susie
Elvis Presley - Jailhouse Rock VS Hank Williams - Your Cheatin' Heart
Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers - Why Do Fools Fall In Love VS Nat King Cole - When I Fall In Love
Chuck Berry - Johnny B. Goode VS Little Richard - Tutti Frutti
Elvis Presley - Hound Dog VS Eddie Cochran - Summertime Blues
Buddy Holly - Peggy Sue VS Jerry Lee Lewis - Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On
Bill Haley & His Comets - Rock Around The Clock VS Ray Charles - What'd I Say
Elvis Presley - Blue Suede Shoes VS Joe Turner - Shake, Rattle and Roll
Everly Brothers - Bye Bye Love VS Chuck Berry - Maybellene
Little Richard - Good Golly, Miss Molly VS Elvis Presley - Heartbreak Hotel
Buddy Holly - That'll Be The Day VS Bobby Darin - Mack the Knife
Frank Sinatra- I've Got You Under My Skin VS James Brown - Please, Please, Please
Johnny Cash - I Walk the Line VS Sam Cooke - You Send Me
The Platters - Only You VS Chuck Berry - Rock And Roll Music

1960-1969

Steppenwolf - Born to Be Wild VS Elvis Presley - Suspicious Mind
Janis Joplin - Piece Of My Heart VS The Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog
Procol Harum - A Whiter Shade Of Pale VS The Beatles - A Day In the Life
The Mamas & The Papas - California Dreamin' VS The Ronettes - Be My Baby
Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone VS Aretha Franklin - Respect
The Beach Boys - God Only Knows VS Led Zeppelin - Whole Lotta Love
Simon and Garfunkel - The Sound of Silence VS The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
The Animals - House of the Rising Sun VS Pink Floyd - See Emily Play
The Who - My Generation VS David Bowie - Space Oddity
Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit VS Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through The Grapevine
The Rolling Stones - Sympathy For The Devil VS The Beatles - I Want To Hold Your Hand
The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along The Watchtower VS The Monkees - I'm a Believer
Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World VS The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Cream - Sunshine of Your Love VS The Beatles - Hey Jude
Jefferson Airplane - Somebody To Love VS Creedence Clearwater Revival - Bad Moon Rising

urgiram da se ne zaboravi ovo jednom kad dođu 90-e na red

Psychedelik · 25.10.2014., 15:46

Nakon prvog kruga, mislim da ne bi trebali ponavljati sva desetljeća iznova, dovoljno je napraviti listu od 50 ili 100 pjesama iz svih dekada koje smo prethodno preskočili i tako završiti drugi krug.

Pangloss · 25.10.2014., 22:23

1950-1959

Jerry Lee Lewis - Great Balls of Fire VS Bo Diddley - Who Do You Love
Ritchie Valens - La Bamba VS The Everly Brothers - Wake Up Little Susie
Elvis Presley - Jailhouse Rock VS Hank Williams - Your Cheatin' Heart
Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers - Why Do Fools Fall In Love VS Nat King Cole - When I Fall In Love
Chuck Berry - Johnny B. Goode VS Little Richard - Tutti Frutti
Elvis Presley - Hound Dog VS Eddie Cochran - Summertime Blues
Buddy Holly - Peggy Sue VS Jerry Lee Lewis - Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On
Bill Haley & His Comets - Rock Around The Clock VS Ray Charles - What'd I Say
Elvis Presley - Blue Suede Shoes VS Joe Turner - Shake, Rattle and Roll
Everly Brothers - Bye Bye Love VS Chuck Berry - Maybellene
Little Richard - Good Golly, Miss Molly VS Elvis Presley - Heartbreak Hotel
Buddy Holly - That'll Be The Day VS Bobby Darin - Mack the Knife
Frank Sinatra- I've Got You Under My Skin VS James Brown - Please, Please, Please
Johnny Cash - I Walk the Line VS Sam Cooke - You Send Me
The Platters - Only You VS Chuck Berry - Rock And Roll Music

1960-1969

Steppenwolf - Born to Be Wild VS Elvis Presley - Suspicious Mind
Janis Joplin - Piece Of My Heart VS The Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog
Procol Harum - A Whiter Shade Of Pale VS The Beatles - A Day In the Life
The Mamas & The Papas - California Dreamin' VS The Ronettes - Be My Baby
Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone VS Aretha Franklin - Respect
The Beach Boys - God Only Knows VS Led Zeppelin - Whole Lotta Love
Simon and Garfunkel - The Sound of Silence VS The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
The Animals - House of the Rising Sun VS Pink Floyd - See Emily Play
The Who - My Generation VS David Bowie - Space Oddity
Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit VS Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through The Grapevine
The Rolling Stones - Sympathy For The Devil VS The Beatles - I Want To Hold Your Hand
The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along The Watchtower VS The Monkees - I'm a Believer
Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World VS The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Cream - Sunshine of Your Love VS The Beatles - Hey Jude
Jefferson Airplane - Somebody To Love VS Creedence Clearwater Revival - Bad Moon Rising

Psychedelik · 01.11.2014., 17:23

Velika pomoć bi mi bili prijedlozi za 70-e i 80-e, te dvije dekade slabije poznajem budući da glazba koju ja slušam prestaje negdje krajem 60-ih.

dile · 01.11.2014., 18:52

koliko?

dile · 01.11.2014., 19:36

evo sto i jedna iz 70ih, po jedna po izvođaču, izbor je prevelik

1970 B J Thomas - Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head
1970 Black Sabbath - Paranoid
1970 Derek and The Dominos - Layla
1970 Edwin Starr - War
1970 Free - All Right Now
1970 George Harrison - My Sweet Lord
1970 James Brown - Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine
1970 Mungo Jerry - In the Summertime
1970 Norman Greenbaum - Spirit in the Sky
1970 Shocking Blue - Venus
1970 Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water
1970 The Beatles - Let It Be
1970 The Kinks - Lola
1970 The Velvet Underground - Sweet Jane
1970 Van Morrison - Moondance
1971 Al Green - Let's Stay Together
1971 Bill Withers - Ain't No Sunshine
1971 David Bowie - Life on Mars?
1971 Don McLean - American Pie
1971 James Taylor - You've Got a Friend
1971 Janis Joplin - Me and Bobby McGee
1971 John Lennon - Imagine
1971 Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven
1971 Leonard Cohen - Famous Blue Raincoat
1971 Mavin Gaye - What's Going On
1971 Rod Stewart - Maggie May
1971 The Doors - Riders on the Storm
1971 The Rolling Stones - Wild Horses
1971 The Who - Baba O'Riley
1971 Tom Jones - She's a Lady
1972 Deep Purple - Smoke on the Water
1972 Lou Reed - Walk on the Wild Side
1972 Neil Young - Heart of Gold
1972 Stevie Wonder - Superstition
1972 The Moody Blues - Nights in White Satin
1972 The Temptations - Papa Was a Rolling Stone
1973 Aerosmith - Dream On
1973 Bob Dylan - Knockin' on Heaven's Door
1973 Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
1973 Roberta Flack - Killing Me Softly with His Song
1973 T. Rex - 20th Century Boy
1974 Bachman-Turner Overdrive - You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet
1974 Bob Marley and The Wailers - No Woman No Cry
1974 George McCrae - Rock Your Baby
1974 John Denver - Annie's Song
1974 Kraftwerk - Autobahn
1974 Labelle - Lady Marmalade
1974 Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama
1974 Sparks - This Town Ain't Big Enough for Both of Us
1974 Steve Miller Band - The Joker
1974 Terry Jacks - Seasons in the Sun
1974 The Rubettes - Sugar Baby Love
1975 10cc - I'm Not in Love
1975 Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
1975 Donna Summer - Love to Love You Baby
1975 KC & the Sunshine Band - That's the Way (I Like It)
1975 Patti LaBelle - Lady Marmalade
1975 Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
1975 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
1975 Roxy Music - Love Is the Drug
1975 Shirley & Company - Shame, Shame, Shame
1975 Silver Convention - Fly Robin Fly
1975 Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel - Make Me Smile (Come Up and See Me)
1976 Sex Pistols - Anarchy in the U.K.
1976 ABBA - Dancing Queen
1976 Chicago - If You Leave Me Now
1976 Eagles - Hotel California
1976 Thin Lizzy - The Boys Are Back in Town
1976 Wild Cherry - Play That Funky Music
1977 Bee Gees - Stayin' Alive
1977 Elvis Costello - Alison
1977 Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
1977 Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
1977 Talking Heads - Psycho Killer
1977 Television - Marquee Moon
1977 Wings - Mull of Kintyre
1978 Blondie - Heart of Glass
1978 Boney M - Rivers of Babylon
1978 Bonnie Tyler - It's a Heartache
1978 Buzzcocks - Ever Fallen in Love?
1978 Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing
1978 Frankie Valli - Grease
1978 Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street
1978 Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive
1978 Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights
1978 Olivia Newton-John & John Travolta - You're the One That I Want
1978 Patti Smith Group - Because the Night
1978 The Police - Roxanne
1978 The Village People - YMCA
1979 AC/DC - Highway to Hell
1979 Anita Ward - Ring My Bell
1979 Buggles - Video Killed the Radio Star
1979 Chic - Le Freak
1979 Gary Numan - Cars
1979 Kiss - I Was Made For Lovin' You
1979 M - Pop Muzik
1979 Michael Jackson - Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
1979 Patrick Hernandez - Born to Be Alive
1979 Pretenders - Brass in Pocket
1979 The Clash - London Calling
1979 The Knack - My Sharona

mojo27 · 02.11.2014., 13:41

1950-1959

Jerry Lee Lewis - Great Balls of Fire VS Bo Diddley - Who Do You Love
Ritchie Valens - La Bamba VS The Everly Brothers - Wake Up Little Susie
Elvis Presley - Jailhouse Rock VS Hank Williams - Your Cheatin' Heart
Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers - Why Do Fools Fall In Love VS Nat King Cole - When I Fall In Love
Chuck Berry - Johnny B. Goode VS Little Richard - Tutti Frutti
Elvis Presley - Hound Dog VS Eddie Cochran - Summertime Blues
Buddy Holly - Peggy Sue VS Jerry Lee Lewis - Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On
Bill Haley & His Comets - Rock Around The Clock VS Ray Charles - What'd I Say
Elvis Presley - Blue Suede Shoes VS Joe Turner - Shake, Rattle and Roll
Everly Brothers - Bye Bye Love VS Chuck Berry - Maybellene
Little Richard - Good Golly, Miss Molly VS Elvis Presley - Heartbreak Hotel
Buddy Holly - That'll Be The Day VS Bobby Darin - Mack the Knife
Frank Sinatra- I've Got You Under My Skin VS James Brown - Please, Please, Please
Johnny Cash - I Walk the Line VS Sam Cooke - You Send Me
The Platters - Only You VS Chuck Berry - Rock And Roll Music

1960-1969

Steppenwolf - Born to Be Wild VS Elvis Presley - Suspicious Mind
Janis Joplin - Piece Of My Heart VS The Stooges - I Wanna Be Your Dog
Procol Harum - A Whiter Shade Of Pale VS The Beatles - A Day In the Life
The Mamas & The Papas - California Dreamin' VS The Ronettes - Be My Baby
Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone VS Aretha Franklin - Respect
The Beach Boys - God Only Knows VS Led Zeppelin - Whole Lotta Love
Simon and Garfunkel - The Sound of Silence VS The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations
The Animals - House of the Rising Sun VS Pink Floyd - See Emily Play
The Who - My Generation VS David Bowie - Space Oddity
Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit VS Marvin Gaye - I Heard It Through The Grapevine
The Rolling Stones - Sympathy For The Devil VS The Beatles - I Want To Hold Your Hand
The Jimi Hendrix Experience - All Along The Watchtower VS The Monkees - I'm a Believer
Louis Armstrong - What A Wonderful World VS The Rolling Stones - (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Cream - Sunshine of Your Love VS The Beatles - Hey Jude
Jefferson Airplane - Somebody To Love VS Creedence Clearwater Revival - Bad Moon Rising

dile · 02.11.2014., 13:52

upravo slušam i trnci me prolaze od genijalnosti. opasno oko vrha za izbor najbolje pjesme, A Day in Life - The Beatles.

Pangloss · 02.11.2014., 15:20

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dile kaže:

upravo slušam i trnci me prolaze od genijalnosti. opasno oko vrha za izbor najbolje pjesme, A Day in Life - The Beatles.

Ali stvarno, nije ovo u redu. Mislim da je jedino pošteno da izbacimo Beatlese iz ovog izbora i damo priliku ostalima da nešto ušićare. Ionako je top 5 Beatlesa ujedno i top 5 uopće.

Brne · 02.11.2014., 15:29

Don McClean: Vincent,
Bob Dylan: Simple twist of fate,
Bruce Springsteen: Thunder road,
I Santo California: Tornero,
Tom Waits: A sight for sore eyes/Tom Traubert's blues/Jersey girl,
Roxy music: More than this,
Bonnie Tyler: Total eclipse of the heart,
The Pogues: A rainy night in Soho/Misty morning Albert bridge/A fairy tale of New York
The Smiths: Please, please, please, let me get what i want.

P.S. A domaće? Isključuju se, pretpostavljam.

P.P.S. Ma najlipše napisana pisma je You've lost that lovin' feelin' Righteous brothersa a na ovoj je listi niti nema.

dile · 02.11.2014., 15:47

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Pangloss kaže:

Ali stvarno, nije ovo u redu. Mislim da je jedino pošteno da izbacimo Beatlese iz ovog izbora i damo priliku ostalima da nešto ušićare. Ionako je top 5 Beatlesa ujedno i top 5 uopće.

što se njih tiče, moje je mišljenje da ono što su oni sami napravili u deset godina nadmašuje kompletnu diskografiju osamdesetih, recimo.

Grimble Gromble · 02.11.2014., 19:06

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dile kaže:

evo sto i jedna iz 70ih, po jedna po izvođaču, izbor je prevelik

Sve pet, ali u oko me bode što nema niti jedne pjesme s DSOTM-a (1973).

dile · 02.11.2014., 19:27

ja sam stavio po jednu od svakog. ako je dsotm bolji album, ne znači da ima i najbolju pjesmu, iako možda ima. bio sam u dilemi da li da stavim Money. al inače, sve se ovo može pomnožiti bar s pet po izvođaču.