Nikola Tesla - jedan od kreatora civilizacije 20. stoljeća

[Imran]

babunovich kaže:

korado korlević je u jednoj od njegovih zadnjih "explora" iznio kako je tesla imao averziju prema ovim našim prostorima, sramio se svog porjekla i sam sebe predstavljao isključivo kao amerikanca

Nije ovo istina.
Uvijek se ponosio svojim porijeklom.

Inače u ovim etničkim obračunima primjećujem 2 stvari. Jedni izvori nameću poluizvore o tobožnjem staroplemićkom hrvatskom porijeklu dok drugi gotovo pa posve osporavaju postojanje kao državnopravnog ili regionalnog entiteta u tadašnjoj monarhiji. Samo da se ospori čuvena izjava o rodu i domovini.

[E-Absynthe]

Tesla je rijeka u Rumunjskoj..U pritoku je Tarlung i Raul Negru (Olt) rijeke..
Ukratko, to je vlaško, tj.rumunjsko, tj.arumunjsko prezime.

[Diego Rivera]

Ako je vjerovati ovom, ključni moment oko spora njegove narodnosti zbio se kad su njegovi dnevnici završili u Beogradu umjesto npr. u Zagrebu. Zašto se to desilo, 'zaslužan je', opet prema ovo sajtu, Teslin rođak Savo Kosanović.

[babunovich]

Imran kaže:

Nije ovo istina.
Uvijek se ponosio svojim porijeklom.

korado često voli iznosti podatke o tesli koji se kose s uvriježenim mainstream mišljenjima
http://radio.hrt.hr/emisija/explora/248/

možeš tako čuti i da je njegovim životom gotovo u potpunosti vladala -kocka, kako je baš radi nje na kraju života pao na prosijački štap

ono što smo o njemu učili do 1990 bila je više ušminkana propagadna o nedodirljivom svecu uz naštelane izjave koje su po potrebi veličale bratstvo i jedinstvo, tekovine revolucije i slično

[salomão]

vidim da se jos jedan put glupirate
k'o da vam je tesko da proverite njegovu oficialnu biografiju od john o'neill
evo vam ekstract :

Both father and mother contributed to the child a valuable heritage of culture developed and passed on by ancestral families that had been community leaders for many generations. The father came from a family that contributed sons in equal numbers to the Church and to the Army. The mother was a member of the Mandich family whose sons, for generations without number, had, with very few exceptions, become ministers of the Serbian Orthodox Church, and whose daughters were chosen as wives by ministers.

Djouka, the mother of Nikola Tesla (her given name in English translation would be Georgina), was the eldest daughter in a family of seven children. Her father, like her husband, was a minister of the Serbian Orthodox Church,


Tesla's father started his career in the military service, a likely choice for the son of an officer; but he apparently did not inherit his father's liking for Army life. So slight an incident as criticism for failure to keep his brass buttons brightly polished caused him to leave military school. He was probably more of a poet and philosopher than a soldier. He wrote poetry which was published in contemporary papers. He also wrote articles on current problems which he signed with a pseudonym, "Srbin Pravicich.'' This, in Serb, means "Man of Justice.''

Tesla's father started his career in the military service, a likely choice for the son of an officer; but he apparently did not inherit his father's liking for Army life. So slight an incident as criticism for failure to keep his brass buttons brightly polished caused him to leave military school. He was probably more of a poet and philosopher than a soldier. He wrote poetry which was published in contemporary papers. He also wrote articles on current problems which he signed with a pseudonym, "Srbin Pravicich.'' This, in Serb, means "Man of Justice.'' He spoke, read and wrote Serbo-Croat, German and Italian. It was probably his interest in poetry and philosophy that caused him to be attracted to Djouka Mandich. She was twenty-five and Milutin was two years older. He married her in 1847. His attraction to the daughter of a pastor probably influenced his next choice of a career, for he then entered the ministry and was soon ordained a priest.


Tesla's homeland is today called Yugoslavia, a country whose name means "Land of the Southern Slavs.'' It embraces several former separate countries, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro, Dalmatia and also Slovenia. The Tesla and Mandich families originally came from the western part of Serbia near Montenegro. Smiljan, the village where Tesla was born, is in the province of Lika, and at the time of his birth this was a dependent province held by the Austro-Hungarian Empire as part of Croatia and Slovenia.

mislim da znate da citate engleski

dakle poreklom su od Srbije, bili Srbi pravoslavci

znam da za vas to je velika trauma

[hrvat22]

salomão kaže:

vidim da se jos jedan put glupirate
k'o da vam je tesko da proverite njegovu oficialnu biografiju od john o'neill
evo vam ekstract :

Both father and mother contributed to the child a valuable heritage of culture developed and passed on by ancestral families that had been community leaders for many generations. The father came from a family that contributed sons in equal numbers to the Church and to the Army. The mother was a member of the Mandich family whose sons, for generations without number, had, with very few exceptions, become ministers of the Serbian Orthodox Church, and whose daughters were chosen as wives by ministers.

Djouka, the mother of Nikola Tesla (her given name in English translation would be Georgina), was the eldest daughter in a family of seven children. Her father, like her husband, was a minister of the Serbian Orthodox Church,


Tesla's father started his career in the military service, a likely choice for the son of an officer; but he apparently did not inherit his father's liking for Army life. So slight an incident as criticism for failure to keep his brass buttons brightly polished caused him to leave military school. He was probably more of a poet and philosopher than a soldier. He wrote poetry which was published in contemporary papers. He also wrote articles on current problems which he signed with a pseudonym, "Srbin Pravicich.'' This, in Serb, means "Man of Justice.''

Tesla's father started his career in the military service, a likely choice for the son of an officer; but he apparently did not inherit his father's liking for Army life. So slight an incident as criticism for failure to keep his brass buttons brightly polished caused him to leave military school. He was probably more of a poet and philosopher than a soldier. He wrote poetry which was published in contemporary papers. He also wrote articles on current problems which he signed with a pseudonym, "Srbin Pravicich.'' This, in Serb, means "Man of Justice.'' He spoke, read and wrote Serbo-Croat, German and Italian. It was probably his interest in poetry and philosophy that caused him to be attracted to Djouka Mandich. She was twenty-five and Milutin was two years older. He married her in 1847. His attraction to the daughter of a pastor probably influenced his next choice of a career, for he then entered the ministry and was soon ordained a priest.


Tesla's homeland is today called Yugoslavia, a country whose name means "Land of the Southern Slavs.'' It embraces several former separate countries, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro, Dalmatia and also Slovenia. The Tesla and Mandich families originally came from the western part of Serbia near Montenegro. Smiljan, the village where Tesla was born, is in the province of Lika, and at the time of his birth this was a dependent province held by the Austro-Hungarian Empire as part of Croatia and Slovenia.

mislim da znate da citate engleski

dakle poreklom su od Srbije, bili Srbi pravoslavci

znam da za vas to je velika trauma

nema traume, tesla je i dalje hrvatskog porijekla..sam je to naveo u dnevniku...kojeg još nismo vidjeli..a zašto sam ćeš shvatiti....

u dnevniku je formula za atomsku bombu...

[Liudewitus]

salomão kaže:

vidim da se jos jedan put glupirate
k'o da vam je tesko da proverite njegovu oficialnu biografiju od john o'neill
evo vam ekstract :

Both father and mother contributed to the child a valuable heritage of culture developed and passed on by ancestral families that had been community leaders for many generations. The father came from a family that contributed sons in equal numbers to the Church and to the Army. The mother was a member of the Mandich family whose sons, for generations without number, had, with very few exceptions, become ministers of the Serbian Orthodox Church, and whose daughters were chosen as wives by ministers.

Djouka, the mother of Nikola Tesla (her given name in English translation would be Georgina), was the eldest daughter in a family of seven children. Her father, like her husband, was a minister of the Serbian Orthodox Church,
(...)
mislim da znate da citate engleski

dakle poreklom su od Srbije, bili Srbi pravoslavci

znam da za vas to je velika trauma

Dobar primjer kako vjerska pripadnost utječe na percepciju etničke pripadnosti.

[Kexx]

salomão kaže:

vidim da se jos jedan put glupirate
k'o da vam je tesko da proverite njegovu oficialnu biografiju od john o'neill
evo vam ekstract :

Both father and mother contributed to the child a valuable heritage of culture developed and passed on by ancestral families that had been community leaders for many generations. The father came from a family that contributed sons in equal numbers to the Church and to the Army. The mother was a member of the Mandich family whose sons, for generations without number, had, with very few exceptions, become ministers of the Serbian Orthodox Church, and whose daughters were chosen as wives by ministers.

Djouka, the mother of Nikola Tesla (her given name in English translation would be Georgina), was the eldest daughter in a family of seven children. Her father, like her husband, was a minister of the Serbian Orthodox Church,


Tesla's father started his career in the military service, a likely choice for the son of an officer; but he apparently did not inherit his father's liking for Army life. So slight an incident as criticism for failure to keep his brass buttons brightly polished caused him to leave military school. He was probably more of a poet and philosopher than a soldier. He wrote poetry which was published in contemporary papers. He also wrote articles on current problems which he signed with a pseudonym, "Srbin Pravicich.'' This, in Serb, means "Man of Justice.''

Tesla's father started his career in the military service, a likely choice for the son of an officer; but he apparently did not inherit his father's liking for Army life. So slight an incident as criticism for failure to keep his brass buttons brightly polished caused him to leave military school. He was probably more of a poet and philosopher than a soldier. He wrote poetry which was published in contemporary papers. He also wrote articles on current problems which he signed with a pseudonym, "Srbin Pravicich.'' This, in Serb, means "Man of Justice.'' He spoke, read and wrote Serbo-Croat, German and Italian. It was probably his interest in poetry and philosophy that caused him to be attracted to Djouka Mandich. She was twenty-five and Milutin was two years older. He married her in 1847. His attraction to the daughter of a pastor probably influenced his next choice of a career, for he then entered the ministry and was soon ordained a priest.


Tesla's homeland is today called Yugoslavia, a country whose name means "Land of the Southern Slavs.'' It embraces several former separate countries, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro, Dalmatia and also Slovenia. The Tesla and Mandich families originally came from the western part of Serbia near Montenegro. Smiljan, the village where Tesla was born, is in the province of Lika, and at the time of his birth this was a dependent province held by the Austro-Hungarian Empire as part of Croatia and Slovenia.

mislim da znate da citate engleski

dakle poreklom su od Srbije, bili Srbi pravoslavci

znam da za vas to je velika trauma

Nema dokaza da su porijeklom iz Srbije, a autor bi trebao znati da je Tesla rođen u HR, ne znam zašto spominje i Sloveniju koje tad nije ni bilo, a nije bilo ni SPC, bar ne pod tim imenom. Dakle, tekst je manjkav.

[ivanx]

hrvat22 kaže:

nema traume, tesla je i dalje hrvatskog porijekla..sam je to naveo u dnevniku...kojeg još nismo vidjeli..a zašto sam ćeš shvatiti....

u dnevniku je formula za atomsku bombu...

isto tako je uvijek govorio da je hrvatski srbin

[hrvat22]

ivanx kaže:

isto tako je uvijek govorio da je hrvatski srbin

govorim o porijeklu, mnogi danas govore da su hrvati ali imaju drugačije porijeklo..

idemo od temelja, to je lika i dio lokalnog stanovništva koje se u zapisima(16,17,18 st.) spominje kao vlaško, oni su većinom pravoslavci, srbi se koliko ja znam u tim vremenima ne spominju ili sporadično..

to nam je temelj kada govorimo o nečijem izvornom porijeklu bar što se tiče njegovih predaka u području like, međutim moramo reći i to da dio lokalnog hrvatskog stanovništva prelazi u tom području i na pravoslavlje odnosno na području pod turcima(zapadna bosna)... i to moramo uzeti u obzir kada govorimo o izvornom porijeklu jer lokalni pravoslavci izvorno mogu biti i hrvati..

što se tiče njegovog dnevnika ne znam da li on postoji ali on tamo spominje hrvatske pretke, W. Bernard Carlson piše o porijeklu nikole tesle i on kaže da teslini preci dolaze sa područja istočne hercegovine, inače to nije potvrđeno ali je zanimljivo da on to navodi što može značiti da je sam pisac naveo tu činjenicu ili je tesla to rekao međutim dokaza za bilo kakvu migraciju iz tih područja nema ili vrlo malo..moguće da je Bernard Carlson ipak koristio neku literaturu koja je govorila o migraciji srba ili koja se bavila poviješću srba ali ta literatura nema veze sa realnošću(možda u tom vremenu da) i iz tog razloga mi ne znamo koliko ima istine u ostalom dijelu knjige koji se bavi teslinim porijeklom..



što se tiče samog tesle on je pri ulasku u ameriku izjavio da je austrijanac po nacionalnosti ali na toj listi nije bilo rubrike "rasa" što se tiče ostalih tesli koji dolaze u ameriku najveći dio se pod rasom izjašnjavaju kao hrvati ali ima nešto i srba..to su faktične činjenice koncem 19. i početkom 20. stoljeća..

[Dubrovčanin]

Svi su štokavci Srbi, kajkavci Slovenci, čakavci Hrvati. Štokavski=srpski, kajkavski=slovenski, čakavski=hrvatski. Tesla je govorio štokavskim, srpskim jezikom, znači bio je Srbin. Većina stanovnika Hrvatske su Srbi. Hrvatska je možda jedina država koja nosi ime po manjinskom narodu. Zove se Hrvatska, a Hrvati u njoj čine ne više od 12% stanovništva. Stare procjene govore o 57% Srba, 31% Slovenaca i 12% Hrvata u Hrvatskoj. Sada je vjerojatno još više Srba, Slovenaca je ostalo tu negdje, Hrvata daleko najmanje. Možda manje od 10% državljana Hrvatske su Hrvati. U Hrvatskoj se rabe tri različita jezika. Srpski, slovenski i hrvatski. Jedini službeni jezik u Hrvatskoj je srpski.

[hrvat22]

Dubrovčanin kaže:

Svi su štokavci Srbi, kajkavci Slovenci, čakavci Hrvati. Štokavski=srpski, kajkavski=slovenski, čakavski=hrvatski. Tesla je govorio štokavskim, srpskim jezikom, znači bio je Srbin. Većina stanovnika Hrvatske su Srbi. Hrvatska je možda jedina država koja nosi ime po manjinskom narodu. Zove se Hrvatska, a Hrvati u njoj čine ne više od 12% stanovništva. Stare procjene govore o 57% Srba, 31% Slovenaca i 12% Hrvata u Hrvatskoj. Sada je vjerojatno još više Srba, Slovenaca je ostalo tu negdje, Hrvata daleko najmanje. Možda manje od 10% državljana Hrvatske su Hrvati. U Hrvatskoj se rabe tri različita jezika. Srpski, slovenski i hrvatski. Jedini službeni jezik u Hrvatskoj je srpski.

sve bi to bilo lijepo samo što štokavski, kajkavski i čakavski nemaju nikakve veze sa porijeklom bilo koga, ti argumenti jedino prolaze kod istočnih susjeda pa ne znam da li se šališ ili koristiš njihovu argumentaciju za ozbiljno..?

[noliđ]

Dubrovčanin kaže:

Svi su štokavci Srbi, kajkavci Slovenci, čakavci Hrvati. Štokavski=srpski, kajkavski=slovenski, čakavski=hrvatski. Tesla je govorio štokavskim, srpskim jezikom, znači bio je Srbin. Većina stanovnika Hrvatske su Srbi. Hrvatska je možda jedina država koja nosi ime po manjinskom narodu. Zove se Hrvatska, a Hrvati u njoj čine ne više od 12% stanovništva. Stare procjene govore o 57% Srba, 31% Slovenaca i 12% Hrvata u Hrvatskoj. Sada je vjerojatno još više Srba, Slovenaca je ostalo tu negdje, Hrvata daleko najmanje. Možda manje od 10% državljana Hrvatske su Hrvati. U Hrvatskoj se rabe tri različita jezika. Srpski, slovenski i hrvatski. Jedini službeni jezik u Hrvatskoj je srpski.

Tako i nikako drugačije.

[Zoran Oštrić]

@Dubrovčanin se zajebava, ali je jednako jadno natezati se s vlastitim spekulacijama na temu "Srbi ne postoje". Tesla je Srbin srpskoga porijekla, a kakvog je bio porijekla njegov šukundjed, irelevantno je.

[Zoran Oštrić]

Naslov "Tesla - Hrvat ili Srbin" fokusira se na biografski beznačajan detalj iz života Nikole Tesle. Zato sam ga promijenio, s obzirom da Nikola Tesla jest dovoljno značajna povijesna pojava da bi se ozbiljno razgovaralo o njegovom životu i radu.

[kiseli1]

http://www.princip.info/wp-content/u...08-900x690.jpg

[Liudewitus]

kiseli1 kaže:

http://www.princip.info/wp-content/u...08-900x690.jpg

A kako je glasila čestitka?

[hrvat22]

Liudewitus kaže:

A kako je glasila čestitka?

http://www.mcnikolatesla.hr/wp-conte...Tesla_0108.jpg

to maček(1936. god.) njemu govori da je on sin naroda srpskog a tesla uzvraća da je on ponosan na srpski rod i na hrvatsku domovinu, međutim zato sam naveo podatke koji govore o izvornom stanovništvu konkretnog područja i to bi nam trebao biti temelj kada se govori o nečijem izvornom porijeklu međutim kasnije (19,20 st) se taj temelj gubi uslijed narodnih preporoda iako kao što sam naveo i u tim vremenima narodih preporoda još dosta tesli pri ulasku u ameriku izjavljuju da su hrvati..

ovdje moram reći da sam našao tesle da li iz vukmanića ili knez gorice(kraj karlovca) koji izjavljuju da su hrvati ali ta sela su sa hrvatskim pučanstvom tako da postoje i izvorni hrvati tesle..

[fgzcvijetic]

Srbin, Hrvat.... ha,ha,ha....

Ima li bar 3 % predanih Teslinih "udomitelja" koji razumiju okretno magnetno polje? Ili barem princip rada izmjenične struje?

[Al dente]

fgzcvijetic kaže:

Srbin, Hrvat.... ha,ha,ha....

Ima li bar 3 % predanih Teslinih "udomitelja" koji razumiju okretno magnetno polje? Ili barem princip rada izmjenične struje?

Baš to, samo se isprazno filozofira o krvnim zrncima i o GPS koordinatama izlaska malog Nikole iz gospođe Tesle...