GMO u Hrvatskoj

[AndrejX]

Industrijskih uglavnom ali njih kupujemo zbog karakteristika koje donose F1 hibridi ali s druge strane pojma nemamo tko se sve i kada prirodno umutio u nase domace sjeme.

Ali i dalje to nema nikakve veze s GMO.

[ruka-slave]

Tudum kaže:

jab proba rakiju od gmo sljiva

One sa zmijskom kožicom?

[ruka-slave]

AndrejX kaže:

Meni se cini kako ti brkas pojmove pa malo lupas.
Velika vecina kod nas dostupnih hibrida ima sjemenje ali se isklijale biljke imati karakteristike jednog od roditelja.

Ne nužno, koliko se sjećam može revertirati nekoliko generacija unatrag.
Npr: (slova su sorte)
A+B=C
B+D=E

onda ide:
C+E=F

Ali ako posiješ sjeme od F, dobiješ recimo B. Koji može biti inače jako plodom siromašna, ali ima neko svojstvo zbog koje pospješuje A i D.

No GMO se dobija ab uovo, direktnom modifikacijom gena. Na što bi oni revertirali to ni Bog ne zna.

Inače puno grublja metoda GMO modifikacije je odavna poznata, ozračivanje sjemena npr rendgenom. Tako su Talijani kreirali sorte pšenice specifične za njihovu tjesteninu cca 1950-tih.

[ruka-slave]

Cisco Kid kaže:

Hoće kod nas sad biti i spermicidnog kukuruza ili nečeg sličnog?

To je ovo:

http://www.truthistreason.net/childr...nd-spermicides

Children of the Corn: GMO Sterility and Spermicides
Posted on May 31, 2011 in Health, Food News, & Big Pharma
TruthisTreason.net – Kevin Hayden
Source: Salem News

There has been a concerted national effort by citizens to have the US government label GMOs. Opposing it are governments intent not only to keep them unlabeled in the US but efforts at the international level by the US government to remove all labeling of GMOs through Codex Alimentarius. The problem is that Codex applies to food, and GMOs don’t qualify.

William Engdahl wrote in March of 2010 about a USDA funded project to create a GM corn that sterilizes people.GMO, glyphosate and population reduction

One long-standing project of the US Government has been to perfect a genetically-modified variety of corn, the diet staple in Mexico and many other Latin American countries. The corn has been field tested in tests financed by the US Department of Agriculture along with a small California bio-tech company named Epicyte. Announcing his success at a 2001 press conference, the president of Epicyte, Mitch Hein, pointing to his GMO corn plants, announced, “We have a hothouse filled with corn plants that make anti-sperm antibodies.” 14

Hein explained that they had taken antibodies from women with a rare condition known as immune infertility, isolated the genes that regulated the manufacture of those infertility antibodies, and, using genetic engineering techniques, had inserted the genes into ordinary corn seeds used to produce corn plants. In this manner, they have produced a concealed contraceptive embedded in corn meant for human consumption.

A evo što je ovih dana popularno, iako nema veze sa GMO, ali ima po načinu implementacije, uvjeravanju javnosti i efektima:

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Raila-...lhi/index.html
Raila joins Catholic Church in opposing tetanus vaccine
MONDAY SEPTEMBER 11 2017

The opposition on Monday re-ignited an unresolved controversial topic when its presidential candidate Raila Odinga claimed that the government administered tetanus vaccine secretly laced with a hormone said to cause infertility in women.

Mr Odinga claimed that the government deliberately sterilised thousands of women and girls in the guise of tetanus vaccination.

READ: 831,000 women set for tetanus vaccine

He further claimed that four credible institutions had conducted independent tests on the vaccine, which showed that it had compounds with high amount of anti-pregnancy hormone called human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) that would render the women and girls sterile.

U Keniji su se Katolička Crkva i opozicija protivili masovnoj vakcinaciji ljudi na tetanus određenim tipom vakcine. Svi su zbvaničnici tvrdili da je to sigurno, nema nuzpojava i sl. WHO, UN, američka FDA su to odobrili i tvrdili da je sve u redu. Vlasti su to gurale pod svaku cijenu.

Ispostavilo se da je taj tip vakcine zagađen (namjerno?) hormonom koji kod žena može izazvati/izaziva sterilnost. Cca pola milijuna žena u Keniji afektirano.

Tko ono tvrdi da je sve u redu sa GMO? UN, WHO, FDA?

[dk1]

Zbegecani kaže:

Moližeš li objasniti uzroke razlike prinosa i niže cijene proizvodnje Roundup Ready soje ili Amflore, krumpira koji se uzgajao u EU, sa običnim krumpirom i običnom sojom.

jedna operacija manje. (što je vrlo bitno ako imaš 1000 hektara. ako imaš 10 ili 50-nevažno)

[Adelholzener]

Dakle sabor je pred 3 dana glasao protiv amandmana Mire Bulja da se zabrani uvoz i prodaja GMO proizvoda u RH.
https://www.logicno.com/vijesti/hrva...anu-video.html

Koja sramota! Pa koga ti sabornici zastupaju?

[nasmijanonebo]

Adelholzener kaže:

Dakle sabor je pred 3 dana glasao protiv amandmana Mire Bulja da se zabrani uvoz i prodaja GMO proizvoda u RH.
https://www.logicno.com/vijesti/hrva...anu-video.html

Koja sramota! Pa koga ti sabornici zastupaju?

Zastupaju samo svoj džep, nista drugo.

[Zbegecani]

nasmijanonebo kaže:

Zastupaju samo svoj džep, nista drugo.

Usvojili su EU direktivu o gmo-u, koja i nije tako loša, obzirom da smo kao članica EU morali implementirati je u naše zakonodavstvo.
Najgori su ovi populistički drekavci koji to znaju, složili su se na povjerenstvu i sada nariču nad zlom sudbinom malog čovjeka.

Ono što od početka tvrdim, bit svega je pravo na informaciju i pravo na izbor potrošača što trenutnim Uredbama predstavlja diskriminaciju gmo-a.

Problematika označavanja GMO-a u proizvodima, posebice hrani i hrani za životinje koja se
sastoji ili sadrži i/ili potječe od GMO-a, razrađena je europskim Uredbama (EU) br.
1829/2003 i Uredbom (EU) br. 1830/2003 koje su direktno primjenjive i na tržištu Republike
Hrvatske za sve subjekte u poslovanju, te se samo i jedino te odredbe kao takve mogu
direktno primjenjivati na tržištu Europske unije čiji je i Republika Hrvatska punopravan član.

[nasmijanonebo]

Ne vjerujem Danajcima/EU ni kad darove donose.

[hilderik]

nasmijanonebo kaže:

Ne vjerujem Danajcima/EU ni kad darove donose.

pogotovo kad donose darove - odmotaš ga, a za poklon kuga, crna smrt.... nek se nose...

[Zbegecani]

nasmijanonebo kaže:

Ne vjerujem Danajcima/EU ni kad darove donose.

Nisu darovi, samo obveze koje smo potpisali penetracijom u Euniju.

Umjesto da "veliki očevi" smisle kako deklarirati proizvode koji sadržavaju gmo a da budu sa Uredbama EU oni zbunjuju javnost svojim lažima.

Ne bi bilo loše proguglati i informirati se koliko gotovih proizvoda u maloprodaji sadrži gm kukuruz i gm soju.

Danas kad kupiš običnu coca colu ne znaš sadrži li gm kukuruz (hfcs) ili ne.

[IceClimber]

ruka-slave kaže:

U Keniji su se Katolička Crkva i opozicija protivili masovnoj vakcinaciji ljudi na tetanus određenim tipom vakcine. Svi su zbvaničnici tvrdili da je to sigurno, nema nuzpojava i sl. WHO, UN, američka FDA su to odobrili i tvrdili da je sve u redu. Vlasti su to gurale pod svaku cijenu.

Ispostavilo se da je taj tip vakcine zagađen (namjerno?) hormonom koji kod žena može izazvati/izaziva sterilnost. Cca pola milijuna žena u Keniji afektirano.

Tko ono tvrdi da je sve u redu sa GMO? UN, WHO, FDA?

Ajmo ne širiti fake news, pogotovo ne američkih Markić ekvivalenata.

Općenito, ako nisi bio na licu mjesta i uvjerio se u stanje stvari vlastitim stručnim metodama, dobro je za svaku informaciju proanalizirati i protuinformaciju. Čisto da se eliminira faktor trolanja ili kako bi se prije reklo, pete kolone.

Dakle... cijela priča stara je skoro 25 godina i čisto je trolanje američkih pro-life skupina. U pitanju je indijsko kontracepcijsko cjepivo koje je bilo bazirano na cjepivu za tetanus, a ne obrnuto i nema nikakve veze s Kenijom.

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How the rumour started back in ’94

The first campaigns against the tetanus vaccine were based on a misunderstanding of a scientific study in India in 1994 that tested a birth control treatment.

The study’s active ingredient was a subunit of a hormone necessary for pregnancy to happen and that is also produced in large amounts throughout pregnancy. It is called human chorionic gonadotrophin, or hCG for short. Home pregnancy tests show up positive when this hormone is present in a women’s urine.

For the Indian trial, researchers used a protein similar to the tetanus toxin as a carrier for the hCG. This would then cause the woman’s immune system to eliminate hCG to prevent pregnancy. The process was reversible, though.

An American anti-abortion organisation, claiming support from the Vatican, used this information to call for a congressional investigation into Mexico’s tetanus vaccination programme. Human Life International claimed that the tetanus vaccine being administered contained hCG which would leave women infertile.

The organisation questioned repeated vaccinations, why women were targeted and why women of childbearing age were “being treated as nothing more than uninformed, unwitting, unconsenting guinea pigs”.

But the WHO said there was “no connection” between their tetanus vaccine programmes and the Indian trial, which was “not sponsored, supported, nor executed” by them.

(Note: In Africa, the origin of tetanus vaccine skepticism appears to be a Catholic mission hospital in the southern part of Tanzania. The hospital’s medical director read about the tetanus vaccine rumours and shared it at a regional meeting in 1994.)

After the rumours spread, some people used home pregnancy kits to detect for hCG in the tetanus vaccine. This method is inappropriate, as it is designed for use on urine or blood serum, not vaccines.

Nonetheless, because of this, low levels of hCG-like activity was detected in the vaccines. But when proper lab tests were conducted on the vaccines in six laboratories around the world – including a lab chosen by the Vatican – no hCG was found.

Dr Heidi Larson – who previously headed UNICEF’s Global Communication for Immunization and is currently based at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine – focuses on managing risks and rumours about health programmes and technologies, particularly vaccines.

Facts alone won’t stop the rumour from resurfacing, she told Africa Check. Larson pointed out that the bishops probably felt excluded when the Catholic Church were not represented on a couple of health ministry committees, as they claimed in a press statement.