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Old 31.12.2011., 10:59   #1
Najbolje prilike u 2012.

Evo, dajte svoje prijedloge i barem neke argumente zašto..... može sa ZSE ili drugdje, nema veze .... ja ću staviti kasnije, ne stignem sada ....
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Old 31.12.2011., 13:14   #2
ADPL-R-A. Moj izbor.

E sad, kad bi svi pametni kritičari Bakića imali hrabrosti pa predložiti neku ozbiljnu dionicu njihove riječi bi imale dubinu, a ne samo palamuditi.
Ili okrećemo pilu naopako pa zagovaramo propast ekonomije, države, društva, svijeta, burze.
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Old 31.12.2011., 14:23   #3
IMN
MMR
TLH.TO
SLW
CCJ
PVG
JASO
AVL

Trenutno imam samo tri, ostale ću kupiti u toku siječnja ili veljače........ovisno o stanju na svjetskim tržištima.......
Na ZSE ću iduće godine prodati i INU i HT tako da neću imati niti jednu dionicu na domaćem marketu do kraja 2012.godine......možda i duže
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Old 31.12.2011., 14:32   #4
ja ocekujem oporavak iduce godine na globalnoj razini i smatram da ce u prvom redu brodari i bankari povratit dobar dio izgubljenog.
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Old 31.12.2011., 20:00   #5
DDJH. Iz kvartala u kvartala bi trebao izbacivati sve bolja izvješća, tokom cijele iduće godine (počevši od 4Q ove koji stiže za mjesec dana).
Tako da mi je to prvi pick za 2012., vidjet ćemo koliko sam bio blizu ili daleko na kraju godine.
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Old 03.01.2012., 12:35   #6
Nekav IPO možda?
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Old 03.01.2012., 20:41   #7
Kupio AVL
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Old 04.01.2012., 18:37   #8
Prodao AVL, čistih 10% za dva dana......

AVL 2,46usd ulaz
AVL 2.72usd izlaz
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Old 04.01.2012., 19:27   #9
Malo si falio temu?

Inače, zanimljivo kako se svega par ljudi odvažilo pa lupilo svoju prognozu za najbolji ticker(e) ove godine. Ali kad treba napasti druge i rugat se njihovim portfeljima, prilično su glasni. Dajte gospodo, izjasnite se. Ako smo pametni, možemo samo profitirati.

"When I disagree with a rational man, I let reality be our final arbiter; if I am right, he will learn; if I am wrong, I will; one of us will win, but both will profit."
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Old 04.01.2012., 20:39   #10
dante je napisao na "zse ili drugdje", prema tome nije promašena tema
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Old 04.01.2012., 21:01   #11
Nisam zbog toga mislio (iako bih osobno naravno volio da se daju prognoze za dionice sa ZSE, još bolje po mogućnosti da su dionice u Crobexu odnosno da su koliko toliko likvidne), već na to što prijavljuje praktički dejtrejding (kupio pa prodao u 2 dana).

Pretpostavljam da dante nije mislio na to, ali pošto nisam siguran zato sam i stavio upitnik (nisi primjetila?).
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Old 04.01.2012., 21:07   #12
Pa čuj, ak je zaradio čistih 10% u dva dana meni se to čini dobra prilika u 2012
Nemam pojma što je dante mislio, došao, otvorio temu sa pol rečenice, i otišao
I sad ti znaj je li mislio na ovo gore, ili što ubosti u 2012 pa držati godinu dana, ili zauvijek
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Old 04.01.2012., 22:06   #13
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Pa čuj, ak je zaradio čistih 10% u dva dana meni se to čini dobra prilika u 2012
Nemam pojma što je dante mislio, došao, otvorio temu sa pol rečenice, i otišao
I sad ti znaj je li mislio na ovo gore, ili što ubosti u 2012 pa držati godinu dana, ili zauvijek
Za 2012. godinu bih bio zadovoljan da zaradim čistih 10% na cijeli portfelj. Eto na jednoj stavci je već zarađen a biti će još prigoda, pa i na tom tickeru.

Primjerice na jednom drugom sam prošle godine ulazio tri puta i izlazio tri puta, svaki put sa zaradom preko 10% a dionica je godinu završila ispod mog prvog ulaza.
To je poanta, kad si u zaradi kapitaliziraj, jer su vremena prezahebana.
Da sam mogao prodao bih i pola fizičkog srebra kad je prešlo 44 usd na spotu.
Kao što se vidi i srebro je završilo godinu značajno ispod.
SLW sam također trejado dva puta prošle godine sa zaradom, jednom sa sitnim plusom i jednom sa sitnim minusom. Prvi ulaz mi je bio na 36 usd a godinu je završio na 28,93 usd.
Ni uz najbolju volju ne vidim tu ništa sporno. Nisam vidovit i ne znam kud će market, samo ga pratim i sukladno tome stavljam naloge.

A što se tiče kolege koji je otvorio temu stvarno ne znam što je mislio, i ako je mislio da se nešto kupi i drži cijelu godinu onda je ovo moje zadnje javljanje na ovoj temi jer ja tako ne radim. To je apsolutno stvar prošlosti, barem za dogledno vrijeme............od nekih pet šest godina.......
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Old 04.01.2012., 22:20   #14
Mislim mogao sam vam i objasniti situaciju sa AVL ali kako sam vidio da nikoga ne zanima nisam smatrao potrebnim da detaljiziram.
To je inače firma koja se bavi razvojem rudnika rijetkih metala u Kanadi a cijene rijetkih metala su trenutno u silaznoj putanji, zbog čega je mudro kapitalizirati dobit i pričekati moguću korekciju pa opet ući, možda i niže od prvog ulaza.
Ako ode up onda se ne ulazi, ima i drugih prigoda.
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Old 04.01.2012., 22:43   #15
hebemu, ne stignem, pa ne stignem ... radim po cijele dane ....

i ovako se tema dobro razvila, baš zato jer je nisam previše determinirao, pa se i svatko može objasniti na što misli i na koji način raditi. kupiti pa držati, trejdati sa određenom zaradom, zse ili vani, što i kako .... evo, to je poanta topica, već ste , pomalo, neki, rekli što i kako.

ja sam za 2012. odredio da ću i dalje držati dosta u novcu, eur, usd, gbp, koje sam kupovao u 2010. te sada imam dobre ulaze. imao sam i chf, ali sam to prodao da prije spuštanja tečaja, kad su najavili da slijedeći dan ide dolje, preko e-zabe prodao
imam ht, ceba-p, adpl, ddjh, plag-r, zvzd , kodt-r, podr i mais (ne znam što mi bi...) ukupno, sitan minus, ali sa dividendama je plus, tako da sam zadovboljan sa prosjekom ulaza.
naravno i keš, koji stoji ...
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Old 05.01.2012., 15:38   #16
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Prodao AVL, čistih 10% za dva dana......

AVL 2,46usd ulaz
AVL 2.72usd izlaz
AVL 2.58
-6.18%

još dan dva pa se može opet kupiti
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Zadnje uređivanje KuciloOro : 05.01.2012. at 15:49.
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Old 06.01.2012., 00:57   #17
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AVL 2.58
-6.18%

još dan dva pa se može opet kupiti

Kucilo svaka čast za avl. Ne pratim baš strana tržišta, pa bi te molio ako možeš napisati neke parametre o toj dionici. Vidim da joj je pad dosta velik, te bi se na osnovu TA moglo nešto zaraditi.
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Old 07.01.2012., 00:10   #18
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Kucilo svaka čast za avl. Ne pratim baš strana tržišta, pa bi te molio ako možeš napisati neke parametre o toj dionici. Vidim da joj je pad dosta velik, te bi se na osnovu TA moglo nešto zaraditi.
Avalon Rare Metlas je jedan od najboljih depozita rijetkih metala u svijetu, zbog toga što je nalazište bogato teškim rijetkim metalima.
Naime rijetki metali nisu uopće rijetki nego ih nitko nije želio kopati osim kineza jer im je cijena bila niska. U međuvremenu su cijene drastično porasle jer su kinezi rekli ostatku svijeta nek se hebu i neka sami kopaju i da će im oni srezati izvoz rijetkih metala. I srezali su im kvote dva puta.
Što je amere, japance i ostale prilično šokoralo.
Od tada je na tom području vladala pomama za dionicama izvan Kine a koji mogu kopati rijetke metale, poput MCP ( Molycorp ). Jer bez rijetkih metala nema vojne tehnologije, elipsa vjetrenjača, lcdea i sličnih čuda......
Tada se Avalon prodavao sve do 9 usd što je bilo prilično previsoko, mislim da sam zadnju količinu prodao na 6,40usd. Od tada je cijena u padu, međutim oscilacije znaju biti prilične i da se lijepo zaraditi......
Povoljna kupnja je na 2,20-2,40, izlaz može biti od 2,80-3,00 bez problema......

Prije kupnje svakako predlažem da se dobro prouči, kako firma tako i kretanje dionice. Bez toga bolje da ga ne gledaš. Evo ti malo za početak istraživanja.......

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Low demand during 2011 was caused by high rare earths prices from both heavy and light rare earths metals, which despite their fluttering prices, remain historically high.
Despite unstable prices throughout 2011, there is some expectation that rare earths prices might become more stable in 2012.
“I think that rare earth metals, they tend to be more strategic in nature and supply versus demand remains quite balanced in favor of prices being stronger in 2012,” said Mike Frawley, global head of metals at Newedge Group. “The pace of consumption in mainland China is a critical component of demand, prices.”
The Chinese continue to control most of the rare earths supply but reports show that Chinese exports are extremely low. Information provided by Metal Pages, a news site that focuses on non-ferrous metals, ferro alloys and rare earths, indicated that rare earth elements exports have dropped 65% in 2011 and that China has only exported 11,000 metric tons of rare earths through the first three quarters of the year.
Reports suggested that the Chinese government may change regulations that would get around Chinese producers who have cut their supply while keeping prices high.
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A heavy rare earth such as dysprosium, which is commonly used in televisions and lasers, reached a market high of $2,800 per kilogram while its current price is $2,000.
Another heavy rare earths type, europrium, which is used in television screens, peaked at $5,900/kg while its current price is $3,900.
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While rare earths are expensive to use in producing several products used daily, the drop in demand does not come from an alternate substance that can be as effective for a fraction of the cost.
“Demand has gone down (in 2011) but I also think that they haven’t really been able to replace rare earth metals,” said Arnett Waters, chairman of A.L. Waters Capital. “I think that part of what’s going on is that businesses are spending less money on more expensive stuff. If I have a use for europrium and I can use a quarter of a pound of it and it does ok in the product that I’m making, I’m not going to adopt a new product in this economy. It would cost too much money.”
Also, with current economic crises around the globe, it is expected that demand will not be strong in 2012 given the historical high prices of rare earths.
Waters used strategic military defense equipment as an example.
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China holds most of the processing capacity for rare earths metals.
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Lynas currently has a concentration plant under construction at Mount Weld in Western Australia as well as an advanced materials plant in Kuantan, Malaysia. Neither plant has begun production yet.
Molycorp Inc. (NYSE:MCP) has three facilities, two located in the U.S., California and Arizona respectively, as well as one located in Estonia. The company stated earlier in 2011 that production from the three facilities would produce between 4,941 and 5,881 metric tons by the end of 2011. The company expects to raise production to 19,050 metric tons by the end of 2012.
The sentiment to mine and produce rare earths outside of China does not fall squarely on the shoulders of these two companies but it is still believed that bigger companies will gain more control of mines and production compared to smaller mining companies.
“At the end of the day it just means that there’ll be fewer smaller mines and there’s a natural evolutionary process that takes place in all developing parts of the world,” said Frawley. “You’ll have the small miners who will be succeeded by stronger companies. A more efficient process will begin to emerge.”
“That takes a long time and I don’t see it changing the balance of that supply any time soon.”
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“Rare earth prices are not listed like precious and base metals prices so it is difficult for the average person to invest in,” said Waters. “It’s a barrier to the growth of the industry.
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Old 07.01.2012., 22:02   #19
Najbolja prilika u 2012 biti će Linićeve obveznice. Kucilo će ih kupovati sigurno. Šortati ćemo ih kasnije
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Old 08.01.2012., 12:02   #20
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Pa čuj, ak je zaradio čistih 10% u dva dana meni se to čini dobra prilika u 2012
Nemam pojma što je dante mislio, došao, otvorio temu sa pol rečenice, i otišao
I sad ti znaj je li mislio na ovo gore, ili što ubosti u 2012 pa držati godinu dana, ili zauvijek
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AVL 2.58
-6.18%

još dan dva pa se može opet kupiti
I evo taj AVL može završiti godinu sa 20% minusa, pa kako je to dobra prilika u 2012.
Po meni bi trebali dat prognozu za dionicu(e) koje će na kraju godine (ili šest mjeseci) imaocu donijeti neku pristojnu zaradu.
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