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Old 10.01.2023., 16:54   #1
Imperijalni eskperimenti na ljudima.

Svi znamo za doktora Mengelea i njegove "eksperimente" na logorašima. Manje je poznata uloga japanske Unit 731, koja vršila jednako užasne eksperimente na kineskim zarobljenicima još od 1935 pa do kapitulacije Japana.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
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Unit 731 (Japanese: 731部隊, Hepburn: Nana-san-ichi Butai),[note 1] short for Manshu Detachment 731 and also known as the Kamo Detachment[3]: 198  and the Ishii Unit,[5] was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that engaged in lethal human experimentation and biological weapons manufacturing during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945) and World War II. The unit’s estimated kills were between 200,000 and 300,000. It was based in the Pingfang district of Harbin, the largest city in the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo (now Northeast China) and had active branch offices throughout China and Southeast Asia.

Unit 731 was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes committed by the Japanese armed forces. It routinely conducted tests on people who were dehumanized and internally referred to as "logs". Experiments included disease injections, controlled dehydration, hypobaric chamber experiments, biological weapons testing, vivisection, amputation, and standard weapons testing. Victims included not only kidnapped men, women (including pregnant women) and children, but also babies born from the systemic rape perpetrated by the staff inside the compound. The victims came from different nationalities, with the majority being Chinese and a significant minority being Russian. Additionally, Unit 731 produced biological weapons that were used in areas of China not occupied by Japanese forces, which included Chinese cities and towns, water sources, and fields. Estimates of those killed by Unit 731 and its related programs range up to half a million people, and none of the inmates survived.

It was officially known as the Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department of the Kwantung Army (関東軍防疫給水部本部, Kantōgun Bōeki Kyūsuibu Honbu). Originally set up by the Kenpeitai military police of the Empire of Japan, Unit 731 was taken over and commanded until the end of the war by General Shirō Ishii, a combat medic officer in the Kwantung Army. The facility itself was built in 1935 as a replacement for the Zhongma Fortress, and Ishii and his team used it to expand their capabilities. The program received generous support from the Japanese government until the end of the war in 1945. Unit 731 and the other units of the Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department operated biological weapon production, testing, deployment, and storage facilities.

While Unit 731 researchers arrested by Soviet forces were tried at the December 1949 Khabarovsk war crime trials, those captured by the United States were secretly given immunity in exchange for the data gathered during their human experiments.[6]

The United States covered up the human experimentations and handed stipends to the perpetrators.[1] The Americans co-opted the researchers' bioweapons information and experience for use in their own biological warfare program, much like what had been done with Nazi German researchers in Operation Paperclip.[7][8] On 28 August 2002, Tokyo District Court ruled that Japan had commited biological warfare in China and consequently had slaughtered many residents.[9][10]
Svi "eksprimentatori" koje su uhitile US snage su oslobođeni i rehibilitirani te nastavili s "radom", uz prigodne stipendije.
Oni koje su uhvatili Sovjeti su osuđeni na suđenju u Habarovsku.

Ono što je skoro nepoznato je da je i sam Imperij samostalano desetljećima vršio skoro jednako odvratne eksperimente diljem svijeta, pa čak i na vlastitim građanima. Ne računamo COVID, naravno. Tu treba pribrojiti i brojne slučajeve teškog zanemarivanja zdravlja radnika od strane korporacija, iako su znali da korištene kemikalije i procesi imaju teške zdravstvene posljedice.

Za početak - Gvatemala.
http://archive.boston.com/news/local..._in_guatemala/
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Wellesley professor unearths a horror: Syphilis experiments in Guatemala
US apologizes for performing unethical study in 1940s
By Stephen Smith
Globe Staff / October 2, 2010

Picking through musty files in a Pennsylvania archive, a Wellesley College professor made a heart-stopping discovery: US government scientists in the 1940s deliberately infected hundreds of Guatemalans with syphilis and gonorrhea in experiments conducted without the subjects’ permission.

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The US scientists — who had received the blessings of Guatemalan health authorities — were among the leading lights in the field of sexually transmitted disease research. Flush with optimism in the dawning era of antibiotic treatment, they decided to expose vulnerable subjects to further their understanding of the effectiveness of the new drugs in treating sexually transmitted diseases. From 1946 to 1948, they tested their theories on about 1,500 Guatemalans; most who became infected received treatment, but at least one died.
Znate li kako je izumljena vakcina za poliomijelitis, kako kontraceptivne pilule a kako fluoridizacija pitke vode?
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Old 10.01.2023., 18:24   #2
Možeš mi objasniti kako je ovo za Alternativu? Ako su sve poznate činjenice, možda bolje da preselimo na Povijest.
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Old 10.01.2023., 18:35   #3
Zanimljive stvari tek dolaze. Velika većina danas potvrđenih činjenica o eksperimentima su bile tek "teorija zavjere", kao i spomenuti incident u Gvatemali (ima ih još jako puno).

Spomenuo sam COVID, zar ne? Danas je tek teorija zavjere da je virus namjerno kreiran u Wuhanu/Fort Detricku (ovisno o izvoru), ali se sada ZNA da je Faucci financirao "proširivanje funkcionalnosti" virusa baziranog na šišmišima iz te pokrajine.

Isto, Rusija je mjesecima tvrdila da USA kontrolira masu bio laboratorija u Ukrajini i diljem post sovjetskih država, što je uredno negirano, da bi tek neki dan izašla potvrda da je USA doista kontrolirala 46 takvih laboratorija,a li "u mirnodopske svrhe". Je li mirnodopska svrha "proširivanje funkcionalnosti"?

Cilj je dakle prvo uspostaviti bazu podataka o dokazanom eksperimentiranju na ljudima kao ustaljenoj praksi zadnjih barem 80 godina, i onda preslikati tu praksu na "nejasne slučajeve" iz prošlosti i sadašnjosti, koji su u domeni "teorija zavjere".
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Old 10.01.2023., 19:09   #4
O. K., neka je ovdje. Zanimljiva tema.
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Old 10.01.2023., 19:31   #5
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It was officially known as the Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification
Necu moci detaljno citati, ali dio koji sam izdvojio, sjetio me je o slucaju koji se desio preko bare, krajem 70-tih, te za razliku od poznatijih, za koje se vlada vec ispricavala zrtvama, s ovog jos nije skinut veo tajne.

Morao bi prokopati bazu da vidim vise "tagova" ali mislim da je ovo film koji je snimljen po tom istinitom dogadjaju. Znam da je Tilly 100% glumila u njemu : Impulse (1984)

Uglavnom, ljudi su se iz cista mira poceli ponasati agresivno u malome gradu, masovne tuce, mali zatvor je bio nakrcan prakticno susjedima koji su medjusobno dekadama zivjeli u miru. Brzo su iscrpili sva racionalna objasnjenjenja, te umjesto da dobiju pomoc. Vojska je zatvorila grad te promatrala dalje sto se desava. Na kraju su medicinari u gradu, shvatili, sto god se desava, dolazi kroz vodu koju piju, ili zrak koji udisu. No do glavnog rezervoara nisu mogli doci, jer nisu mogli izaci iz grada. Uglavnom, vojska se povukla, te su stvari se pocele normalizirati. Neurotoksini, cijanid, svasta se navodi.

Zanimljivo (ako je pravi stavljen) da film se danas navodi kao fikcija, a na pocetku lijepo pise da je radjeno po istinitoj prici, te se sjecam slanka u video magazinu DE 80-tih, te na kraju, te do danas, nije objasnjeno pristustvo vojske, jer se vodi kao tajna, te nije dostupna javnosti na uvid.

Nasao s VHS-a sliku, bas me zanima, nalazi li se na novijim izdanjima, ako postoje :




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Old 10.01.2023., 19:37   #6
Ideju sam zapravo dobio na susjednoj temi "Treći svjetski rat" koja je slučajno odlutala na "chemtrailse" - kojih ja nisam pobornik, i to sam tamo kratko obrazložio. (da ne širim tehničko obrazloženje)
https://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=9...postcount=3718

Ono što je međutim dokazano je da USA jeste vršila eksperimentalnu disperziju bakterija aerosolima na svojim građanima. Zaprašivali bi određeno područje relativno benignim bakterijama, koje imaju neke karakteristike puno opasnijih, i onda preko liječničkih ordinacija i bolnica mjerili brzinu širenja zaraze i posljedice po zaražene.
San Francisko, 1950-te:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray
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Operation Sea-Spray was a 1950 U.S. Navy secret biological warfare experiment in which Serratia marcescens and Bacillus globigii bacteria were sprayed over the San Francisco Bay Area in California, in order to determine how vulnerable a city like San Francisco may be to a bioweapon attack.

Military test
Starting on September 20, 1950 and continuing until September 27, the U.S. Navy released the two types of bacteria from a ship off the shore of San Francisco, believing them to be harmless to humans. Based on results from monitoring equipment at 43 locations around the city, the Army determined that San Francisco had received enough of a dose for nearly all of the city's 800,000 residents to inhale at least 5,000 of the particles

On October 11, 1950, eleven residents checked into Stanford Hospital in San Francisco with very rare, serious urinary tract infections. Although ten recovered, Edward J. Nevin, who had had recent prostate surgery, died three weeks later from a heart valve infection. The urinary tract outbreak was so unusual that the Stanford doctors wrote it up for a medical journal.[7][3] None of the other hospitals in the city reported similar spikes in cases, and all 11 victims had urinary-tract infections following medical procedures, suggesting that the source of their infections lay inside the hospital.[5] Cases of pneumonia in San Francisco also increased after Serratia marcescens was released, though a causal relation has not been conclusively established.[9][10] The bacterium was also combined with phenol and an anthrax simulant and sprayed across south Dorset by US and UK military scientists as part of the DICE trials that ran from 1971 to 1975.[5][11]

There was no evidence that the Army had alerted health authorities before it blanketed the region with bacteria. Doctors later wondered whether the experiment might be responsible for heart valve infections around the same time as well as serious infections seen among intravenous drug users in the 1960s and 1970s.[3]
New York, podzemna željeznica, 1966:
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Field testing of the biological weapons was completed covertly and successfully with simulants and agents dispersed over wide, open areas.[11] The first American large-scale aerosol vulnerability test, code-named Operation Sea-Spray, occurred in the San Francisco Bay Area in September 1950, using two types of bacteria, Bacillus globigii and Serratia marcescens, and fluorescent particles.[11] Bacillus species were chosen in these tests because of their spore-forming abilities and their similarities to Bacillus anthracis, a causing agent of anthrax.[11] S. marcescens was used because it is easily identifiable from its red pigment.[11] In 1966, the New York City Subway was contaminated with Bacillus globigii in an attempt to simulate the spreading of anthrax in a large urban population.[21] More field tests involving pathogenic species were conducted at Dugway Proving Ground, Utah and anti-animal studies were conducted at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida.[11]
Sada ne mogu pronaći, ali se jasno sjećam da sam svojevremeno našao članak o tome da su se u NY raspršivali aerosoli i direktno po ulicama. Ako ga pronađem, staviti ću. Isti članak ima nešto slično:
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The entire experimental legacy is dismaying, from the hundreds of dead monkeys at Fort Detrick to the spectacle of Seventh Day Adventist soldiers, the vaccinated volunteers in Project Whitecoat, strapped to chairs amid cages of animals in the Utah sunlight as Q fever aerosols are blown over them. Most chilling are the mock scenarios played out in urban areas: light bulbs filled with simulated BW agents being dropped in New York subways, men in Washington National Airport spraying pseudo-BW from briefcases, and similar tests in California and Texas and over the Florida Keys.[23]
Pod pritiskom javnosti, Nixon je zabranio istraživanja biooružja za ofenzivnu uporabu. No, koja je razlika između istraživanja za ofenzivnu i defanzivnu uporabu? Da bi mogao napraviti lijek/vakcinu, tj.istražiti defanzivnu uporabu, moraš prvo imati bacil za ofenzivnu uporabu.

Sjetimo se inducirane panike sa slanjem "bijelog praška" s antraksom nakon 9/11 i misteroiznim masovnim telefonskim pozivima koji su širili paniku prijeteći bombama i antraksom praktički nasumce odabranim osobama. Nikad nitko od pozivatelja nije uhvaćen, ali se cirkus sa antraksom slomio na leđima lika koji se prigodno samoubio, ili "ubio".
https://www.propublica.org/article/n...-bruce-e-ivins
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New Evidence Adds Doubt to FBI’s Case Against Anthrax Suspect
The FBI still insists it had the right man in Bruce Ivins, an Army biologist who committed suicide in 2008 before being charged with the mailings that killed five people. But an in-depth look by ProPublica, PBS and McClatchy found new evidence challenging the government’s claims.

by Stephen Engelberg Oct. 10, 2011

WASHINGTON – Months after the anthrax mailings that terrorized the nation in 2001, and long before he became the prime suspect, Army biologist Bruce Ivins sent his superiors an email offering to help scientists trace the killer.

Already, an FBI science consultant had concluded that the attack powder was made with a rare strain of anthrax known as Ames that's used in research laboratories worldwide.

In his email, Ivins volunteered to help take things further. He said he had several variants of the Ames strain that could be tested in “ongoing genetic studies" aimed at tracing the origins of the powder that had killed five people. He mentioned several cultures by name, including a batch made mostly of Ames anthrax that had been grown for him at an Army base in Dugway, Utah.

Seven years later, as federal investigators prepared to charge him with the same crimes he'd offered to help solve, Ivins, who was 62, committed suicide. At a news conference, prosecutors voiced confidence that Ivins would have been found guilty. They said years of cutting-edge DNA analysis had borne fruit, proving that his spores were “effectively the murder weapon.”

To many of Ivins’ former colleagues at the germ research center in Fort Detrick, Md., where they worked, his invitation to test the Dugway material and other spores in his inventory is among numerous indications that the FBI got the wrong man.
Pogađate, lik je radio u Fort Dietricku.

Pa se lako vratimo na teorije zavjere tko je zapravo iza 9/11 i u čiju je korist taj događaj išao.
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Old 10.01.2023., 19:49   #7
@ruka-slave, Rusi su radili eksperimente na ljudima, Šveđani i Finci također. Amerikanci ne da su nad svojim stanovništvom radili pokuse s kojekakvim gadarijama već su svoje vojnike izlagali radijaciji kod pokusa atomskog oružja.
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@ruka-slave, Rusi su radili eksperimente na ljudima, Šveđani i Finci također. Amerikanci ne da su nad svojim stanovništvom radili pokuse s kojekakvim gadarijama već su svoje vojnike izlagali radijaciji kod pokusa atomskog oružja.
To je ovo:
Atomic Soldiers (2018)
Prije doste godina je bio isto dokumentarac o sličnim testovima nad vojnicima. Doveli bi ih u blizinu A-bombe, rekli da prekriju oči rukom, i ruknuli bombu. Lik kaže da je kroz rukav i meso podlaktice jasno vidio svoje kosti. Ako je takav bio vizualni bljesak, kakva je tek bila radijacija.


Južna Afrika (za aparthejda).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Coast
Iako je današnja J.Afrika potpisnica konvencije o biokemijskom oružju, ne zna se točno da li ima u posjedu još zaostataka iz tog doba.

Sjećamo li se kod nas one panike zbog velikih boginja početkom 1970-tih? Otkuda su došle? Slučajno je tih godina bila i velika epidemija slinkavke/šapa među uvezenim govedima, koliko se sjećam bila je afektirana Luka Ploče preko koje je sve išlo, hrpa željezničkih vagona, pruga i postaja koji su morali biti dezinficirani. Slučajno je baš prije Nixon dolazio u Zagreb.
https://www.24sata.hr/news/zagrepcan...rvatska-719619
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Zagrepčani su preplavili ulice da pozdrave predsjednika, a on je uzviknuo 'Živjela Hrvatska'
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Osim Beograda, za vrijeme dvodnevnog posjeta Titu, od 30.9. do 2.10. 1970. godine, Richard Nixon je obišao i Zagreb i Titov rodni Kumrovec. A odluka da se tijekom službenog posjeta Beogradu otputuje u još jedan grad, bila je bez presedana.
Sve to ne bi bilo ništa neobično, osim da nije jedne stavri - obirom na rat i raspad zdravstvenog sustava u Hrvatskoj, kako to da se u 32 godine nije desilo ništa slično - sve dok odjednom nisu počele ptičje/svinjske gripe.
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Old 20.02.2023., 19:02   #9
Dok je Okinawa još bila službeno okupirana, USA je vršila testiranja bio oružja na otoku početkom 1960-tih. Radilo se o gljivičnom oboljenju koje uništava nasade riže. Svake godine uništi riže za 60 milijuna ljudi.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...ns-in-okinawa/
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U.S. Army tested biological weapons in Okinawa
Rice fungus released in at least two sites in early 1960s, documents show
KYODO, STAFF REPORT

Jan 12, 2014

The U.S. Army tested biological weapons in Okinawa in the early 1960s, when the prefecture was still under U.S. rule, according to U.S. documents obtained by Kyodo News.

In the tests, conducted at least a dozen times between 1961 and 1962, rice blast fungus was released over paddies to see how it affected production, the documents made available by U.S. authorities showed.

Rice blast disease causes lesions to form on the plant, threatening the crop. The fungus, which is known to occur in 85 countries, is estimated to destroy enough rice to feed 60 million people a year.
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Old 04.03.2023., 07:38   #10
Kako je nastala kontraceptivna tableta

Puerto Rico je okupiran 1898 (skupa s Filipinima, Guamom..) od strane SAD nakon rata sa Španjolskom, i od tada je de facto njihova kolonija.

Nakon IIsr je korišten kao poligon za testiranje razvoja kontraceptivnih tableta, za što je bio idealan - nije bio pod američkim zakonima, blizina SADa, siromašno stanovništvo, uz to i "obojano".

Za početak, u skladu sa eugeničkim načelima tako omiljenima US oligarhiji prema kojima siromašnima valja "pomoći" da se ne razmnožavaju, sterilzirano je cca 1/5 portorikanskih žena. Besplatno. Cilj je bio ograničiti rast, ili čak izbrisati cijelu lokalnu populaciju otoka.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/202...rights-history
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In Puerto Rico, A History Of Colonization Led To An Atrocious Lack of Reproductive Freedom
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LAST UPDATED OCTOBER 20, 2020, 2:00 PM
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Starting in 1937, when Law 116, allowing eugenics-based sterilization, passed in Puerto Rico, the U.S. federal government began subsidizing and promoting the irreversible procedure on the archipelago. With additional encouragement from local industrial employers, who favored sterilized laborers, and health workers, who went door-to-door imploring mothers who had two children to undergo hysterectomies or tubal ligations, sterilization became so common and normalized that it was simply referred to as “la operación.” By 1953, nearly one-fifth of Puerto Rican women had received the free procedure. Many of them were unaware the surgery was irreversible.
Onda su počeli testirati i druge načine kontracepcije:
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The surgery was urged at birth control clinics throughout the archipelago, including several that were established by U.S. eugenicist Clarence Gamble, an heir to the Procter & Gamble company.

Throughout the 1930s, he used his facilities to test contraceptives that had not yet been approved by the FDA — like the diaphragm, foam powder, sponge, and spermicidal jelly — on 1,500 women on the archipelago.

In the 1950s, Gamble also supported and encouraged biologist Gregory Pincus and obstetrician John Rock to test a hormonal birth control pill they were developing on Puerto Rican women.

In the U.S., the men — who were championed by Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger and philanthropist Katharine Dexter McCormick — were also secretly testing the drug on a small group of women. However, they knew that the medication would never receive the FDA approval needed to bring it to market without large-scale experimenting.
Jedan dio istraživanja se tajno obavljao i u USA, gdje je inače to bilo zabranjeno.

Kako im je za odobrenje od strane FDA trebao veliki broj pokusnih "kunića", prešli su na masovna testiranja. Izbor je naravno pao na najsiromašnije dijelove Puerto Rica.
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Starting in 1955, the pair conducted several trials in impoverished neighborhoods throughout the archipelago, most notoriously at a housing project in Río Piedras.

The hundreds of women who participated knew the drug prevented pregnancy, but they were unaware that they were part of a clinical trial. They also didn’t know that the medication, which contained much higher doses of hormones than modern-day birth control pills, was in an experimental stage or that it carried negative side effects.

About 17 percent of the women in the study complained of nausea, dizziness, headaches, stomach pain, and vomiting, while three participants died. The deaths of the women were not investigated, and Pincus and Rock dismissed the complaints as psychosomatic.

Bianca I. Laureano, an Oakland, CA-based sexual educator who has centered birth control’s troubling history in her academic research and writing, calls the trials “dehumanizing.” She also notes that while the tests were part of a project to expand contraceptive options for women in the U.S., the eugenicists behind the pill disvalued Puerto Rican life and openly discussed their desire to have the population wiped out.
Nakon 5 godina testiranja, prva tableta je dozvoljena za uporabu na SAD tržištu. Ironija je da si ju najsiromašnije žene Puerto Rica, koje su služile za nedozvoljene eksperimente, nisu mogle priuštiti, pa se nastavilo sa sterilizacijom, koja je, je li, za razliku od tablete, bila "besplatna".

Do 1970-tih je sterilizirano čak 1/3 žena na arhipelagu, najviša stopa na svijetu.
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Nevertheless, by 1960, Enovid, though tested on women without their informed consent, was approved by the FDA and available across the U.S. Back in Puerto Rico, however, the medication, which was priced at 50 cents a pill or $11 a month, was inaccessible to the destitute women who played a key role in the tablet’s creation.

As a result, sterilization continued to be the main form of birth control on the archipelago. By the 1970s, one-third of the women were sterilized — the highest sterilization rate in the world.
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Old 18.03.2023., 08:59   #11
Sjećamo se nedavne histerije oko "Havana sindorma", misterioznog cvrčanja i glavobolja po US diplomatskim predstavništvima? Na koncu je ispalo da je bio samo hype.

Manje je poznato da je postojao i "Moskovski Signal", sličan hype vezan za ambasadu u Moskvi.

https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2023...rome-research/
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The “Moscow signal” – echoes from the Cold War
These studies are not the first time the U.S. government has funded inquiries into such phenomena.

In the 1950s and 1960s, the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) conducted radiation experiments on humans and primates, to see if microwave radiation could impede the mental and physical abilities of test subjects.

The experiments were part of a larger program, Project Pandora, which sought to understand if the Soviet Union had used a directed-energy weapon on staff at the U.S. embassy in Moscow.

At the time, embassy employees reported of suffering from ailments similar in character to Havana Syndrome, prompting the government to look into a so-called “Moscow Signal.”
Stvar je rezultirala eksperimentima na ljudima izlaganja mikrovalnoj radijaciji radarske opreme. Najpoznatiji je "Big Boy"

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One of the Pandora studies, identified as Project Big Boy, focused on human test subjects on a Navy ship, the USS Saratoga. The study found no changes between groups who had been exposed to microwave radiation through the Saratoga’s radar equipment and those who had not.

“There were no significant differences discernible among the three groups, either in the dockside or underway tests with respect either to task performance, psychological effects, or biological effects,” reads a summary of findings of Big Boy in a 1979 Congressional report on Pandora.

According to the report, a subsequent primate study also “did not provide an acceptable answer to the question as to whether or not any effects, either behavioral or biological, could be caused by microwave radiation of the intensity and characteristics contained in the synthetic ‘Moscow’ signal.”

Project Pandora was terminated in 1970.
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Old 20.03.2023., 14:42   #12
Japanci su u Kini zatrovali više od 1000 bunara kako bi proučili širenje kolere i tifusa. Japanski avioni su rasipali buhe zaražene kugom nad kineskim gradovima ili su ih distribuirali putem sabotera u poljima riže i duž cesta. Tako izazvane epidemije su čak 1947-me izazvale smrt više od 30.000 ljudi.

https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status...DUqd_d-bgtAAAA
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Jeffrey Kaye @jeff_kaye
"the Japanese army poisoned more than 1,000 water wells in Chinese villages to study cholera and typhus outbreaks. Japanese planes dropped plague-infested fleas over Chinese cities or distributed them by means of saboteurs in rice fields and along roads."

"Some of the epidemics they caused persisted for years and continued to kill more than 30,000 people in 1947, long after the Japanese had surrendered."

U.S. protected these criminals from war crimes prosecution, then used their expertise in germ war against China & No. Korea!

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Interesting that hepatitis c was first identified (then called non a or b hepatitis )amongst Australian soldiers returning from Korea in early 1950 then Agent orange in Vietnam etc
Izvor: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1326439/
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EMBO Rep. 2003 Jun; 4(Suppl 1): S47–S52.

The history of biological warfare
Friedrich Frischknecht

Abstract
Human experimentation, modern nightmares and lone madmen in the twentieth century

During the past century, more than 500 million people died of infectious diseases. Several tens of thousands of these deaths were due to the deliberate release of pathogens or toxins, mostly by the Japanese during their attacks on China during the Second World War. Two international treaties outlawed biological weapons in 1925 and 1972, but they have largely failed to stop countries from conducting offensive weapons research and large-scale production of biological weapons.
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Old 28.07.2023., 18:19   #13
Prije par tjedana je umro/ubio se u zatvoru čuveni Unabomber aka Ted Kaczynski, lik koji je desteljećima postavljao bombe po SADu i bio neuhvatljiv, usput ostavljajući razne političke proklamacije.

Ono što je sada izašlo je puno luđe. Naime,Ted Kaczynski je bio žrtva psihološke torture projekta MK-Ultra, koja ga je tako uništila da je potpuno skrenuo, i od djeteta matematičkog genija koji je u 16-toj godini upisao Harvard 1958-me, postao šizofrenik i terorist. Upravo mu je upis na Harvard presudio sudbinu, jer je silom ii milom, uguran kao subjekt u vrlo nasilan projekt psihološkog ispiranja uma, 1959-1962. Psihološko mrcvarenje, elektroškovi, uskraćivanje sna, gladovanje, droge, visoki i nizak tlak zraka, uskraćivanje kisika...i puf, nešto je puklo.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-MK-Ultra.html
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Just a few blocks east of Harvard sits an unassuming three-story Victorian apartment house that to the casual observer is nothing of note.

But in 1958, No. 8 Prescott Street's most notorious tenant moved into a gloomy single room dormitory on the first floor. His name was Theodore 'Ted' Kaczynski, a brilliant but timid 16-year-old math prodigy that would later become infamously known by his nom de guerre — 'the Unabomber.'

Now, in the wake of Kaczynski's suicide on June 10 at the age of 81, a sinister little-known aspect of his life has emerged from his time as an undergraduate at Harvard University, that suggests his involvement in the CIA's atrocious brainwashing program known as MK-Ultra.

Led by a maniacal psychologist named Dr. Henry Murray, Kaczynski was one of 22 coeds subjected to, in Murray's own words, 'vehement, sweeping, and personally abusive' mock interrogations between 1958 and 1962.

Patients were dosed with potent mind-altering drugs, subjected to extremes of temperature and sound, high and low pressure, oxygen, food and sleep deprivation, strapped to electroshock machines and forcefully interrogated under a blazing spotlight for hours at a time.

While very little is known of the clandestine experiment and the potential effect it had on Kaczynski during his formative years; it is well known that he eventually retreated to the wilderness of Montana in 1971, where he began a 17-year-long bombing campaign that resulted in three deaths, 23 injuries and the longest and most costly manhunt in American history that spanned two decades.

In the years since his 1996 arrest, there has been no shortage of discourse dedicated to understanding Kaczynski's unique criminal profile.
1967 je čak postao asistent na Berkley. 1971 se odmetnuo u divljinu i počeo raditi na bombama i svom manifestu.

Zanimljivo, 1966 je htio obaviti tranziciju u žensko.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynskitransition.
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For a period of several weeks in 1966, Kaczynski experienced intense sexual fantasies of being female and decided to undergo gender transition. He arranged to meet with a psychiatrist, but changed his mind in the waiting room and discussed other things instead, without disclosing his original reason for making the appointment. Afterwards, enraged, he considered killing the psychiatrist and other people whom he hated. Kaczynski described this episode as a "major turning point" in his life.[32][33]

He recalled: "I felt disgusted about what my uncontrolled sexual cravings had almost led me to do. And I felt humiliated, and I violently hated the psychiatrist. Just then there came a major turning point in my life. Like a Phoenix, I burst from the ashes of my despair to a glorious new hope."[34]
Zanimljiva koincidencija Kaczynskijeve nesretne sudbine sa današnjom Amerikom, zar ne.

Danas bi rekli za te MK Ultra rabote: "Enhanced Interrogation techniques"
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Zanimljiva koincidencija Kaczynskijeve nesretne sudbine sa današnjom Amerikom , "zapadnim svijetom" , zar ne.
Je , to se shiri kao zaraza , ja sam o tome zadnjh par decenija razmisljao kao o nekakvom , ne korona virusu ,

ne kompjuterskom virusu , nego kao o zlocudnom mentalnom virusu , izvan kontrole , za covjecanstvo o vrlo opasnoj

globalnoj zarazi . I poglec nas sad ! We all live in America !

Ps

Charles Manson i Helter Scelter mi pali na pamet . On je navodno mislio da mu Beatlesi putem muzike shalju tajne poruke .

https://youtu.be/cCQlpuGHnsQ

Ispada da su intelektualci , po prirodi stvari mastoviti i znatizeljni ljudi ... najranjiviji .

Glupanima ne mogu nista i u to ime , popijmo si jos koju !
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Old 28.07.2023., 20:13   #15
Zapravo, "socijalna zaraza" je dobro poznat pojam. Primjerice, nasilje je zarazno na sličan način kao i virusna zaraza. Ovdje je usporedba povijesnih epidemija klasičnih bolesti i epidemija nasilja.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207245/
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II.9VIOLENCE IS A CONTAGIOUS DISEASE6
Gary Slutkin, M.D.

The University of Illinois at Chicago

Cure Violence (formerly CeaseFire)

Violence is a contagious disease. It meets the definitions of a disease and of being contagious—that is, violence is spread from one person to another. This paper will clarify (1) how violence is like infectious diseases historically by its natural history and by its behavior; (2) how violence specifically fits the basic infectious disease framework—and how we can use this framework to better understand what is known of the pathogenic processes of violence; and (3) how we can provide better guidance to future strategies for reducing violence, in order to get more predictable results, and develop a clearer path to putting violence into the past. This paper intends to clarify to the scientific and policy community, as well as the general public, how violence is acquired and biologically processed, and begins to outline how the spread of violence can be interrupted in short-term emergencies and longer term situations.

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Misdiagnosis and Mistreatment
It now seems as if the problem of violence, like the great infectious diseases of the past, has been stuck—not because we do not care enough, nor because we do not have enough money devoted to it, but because we have made the wrong diagnosis. Wrong diagnoses, in particular moralistic diagnoses, usually lead to ineffective and even counterproductive treatments and control strategies. Problems of mankind frequently do get stuck, sometimes for decades or even for the history of man, commonly because we do not correctly understand the problem scientifically, a step that is required to design and implement rational and effective control measures. It also seems that, historically, moralistic views and solutions usually fill that gap in understanding.

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Infectious Diseases and Violence in Populations
There are three main characteristics of infectious diseases in populations: clustering, spread, and transmission. Clustering in space, or spatial grouping, is simple in concept and is characteristic of epidemic diseases. Clustering is shown in Figure II-1 for the infectious disease cholera in Bangladesh, and in Figure II-2 for violence in Chicago. Spread in epidemics is characteristically nonlinear. This may be one of the reasons why many researchers have difficulty attributing rises and falls to simple causative factors such as the economy or jobs. Nonlinear spread may occur as waves, frequently appearing as waves on top of waves. (This is characteristic of plague, smallpox, and many other infectious diseases; see Anderson and May, 1991, and as shown in Figure II-3 for the homicides in the United States over the past several decades.) This pattern of waves upon waves occurs because epidemics frequently consist of many epidemics, as spread itself diffuses and as contagious populations meet with new susceptible populations in new locations, and to be met with new provoking factors.
Odatle do epidemija raznih ideologija - koje su u osnovi nasilje jedne male grupe ljudi nad javnim prostorom - samo je korak. Principi su identični.
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Old 28.07.2023., 20:21   #16
Skuzaj me .

U cudnom sam raspolozenju nakon dugog plivanja nekako pa bas zelim da ovo napishem :

Nazires Matrix . Idem se ubiti od klope . Over and Out "
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Old 21.08.2023., 14:15   #17
Čudesna dinamika odnosa između populacije mentalnih bolesnika i zatvorenika u USA.
https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting...r_of_mentally/
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The curious dynamics of the number of mentally ill and prisoners in the United States per 100 thousand people in 1934-2001.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=htt...48e8a04005ea5c
Na priloženoj slici na linku se vidi da se broj mentalno oboljelih na 100.000 stanovnika u USA počeo smanjivati negdje 1955, sa cca 600, kad je broj zatvorenika bio cca 180 na 100.000. Broj mentalno oboljelih je dosegavši vrlo niske brojke, cca 100 polovinom 1970-ih, kad je rapidno počeo rasti broj zatvorenika. Do 2001-ve je broj zatvorenika dosegao, nećete vjerovati cca 600 na 100.000 stanonika, a broj mentalno oboljelih je pao skoro na cca 30.

Nevjerojatna podudarnost, zar ne?

Inače je upravo 1950-tih počela masovna operacija MK Ultra, koja je ekspandirala u masovnu proliferaciju droga 1950/60-tih i eksploziji zločina 1970-tih u velikim gradovima tipa New Yorka.
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Old 25.08.2023., 00:43   #18
Sasvim slučajno sam se danas zainteresirala za priču o Columbine Shooting. Počela sam čitati o žrtvama i ozljeđenima u pucnjavi... i došla sam do jednog slučaja (žrtve koja je ozljeđena ali preživjela) koji definitivno ide pod ovu temu.

Znači on (Mark Taylor) tvrdi da su farmaceuti trovali antidepresivima ubojice zbog kojeg je ubojica Erick Harris odjednom postao jako ljutita osoba. Ugl. on i njegova majka su počeli istraživati malo o tome, da bi Marka na kraju strpali u ludnicu u kojoj je boravio neko vrijeme. Kada je izašao, više nije bio svoj... nešto su mu prčkali po mozgu i čovjek je izgubio pamčenje :S jezivoo. tek sam sada ovo otkrila, s toga ne znam više o tome, ako se nekome da malo istražiti i vidjeti što se ovdje događalo...

Prijevod s engleskog sa stranice koju sam stavila iznad:

''The True Vine napravio je intervju s Markom nakon što je izliječen. Kasnije su on i njegova obitelj napravili ''Ten Commandments Bear" u čast onih koji su umrli tijekom masakra. Tužio je Solvay Pharmaceuticals, rekavši da je njihov antidepresiv Luvox® učinio Erica Harrisa psihotičnim i nasilnim (ovo se čak može povezati s postom forumaša iznad Cat6). Njegova obitelj tužila je i roditelje Erica Harrisa.

Godine 2006. Mark je objavio vlastitu knjigu o svojim iskustvima od 20. travnja 1999.: Pitao sam, Bog je odgovorio - čudo Columbine.

Godine 2007. Mark je intervjuiran za ABC nakon što je Seung-Hui Cho pucnjave u Virginia Tech. Mark i njegova majka Donna Taylor u to su vrijeme bili u Des Moniesu, Iowa, proučavajući moguće veze između antidepresiva i školskih pucnjava zajedno s dr. Ann Tracy, izvršnom direktoricom Međunarodne koalicije za svijest o drogama. Mark je mreži rekao da mu je pucnjava na koledžu vratila sjećanja na njegova iskustva. Rekao je da želi educirati javnost o opasnostima korištenja antidepresiva jer vjeruje da je njihova upotreba odigrala čimbenik u pucnjavi na Columbineu i Virginia Techu.

Godine 2008. Mark je smješten u stacionar The Lighthouse u Aspen Pointeu u Colorado Springsu nakon navodnog kraha u knjižari. Kruže glasine da se prijetilo bombom i da je upereno prstom u njega, ali to je neutemeljena internetska pretpostavka. Stvarni razlog njegovog pritvaranja još uvijek ostaje nejasan, ali ono što je jasno je sljedeće: kada je pušten, Mark Taylor nije bio ista osoba. Prisiljen na lijekove za promjenu raspoloženja tijekom dva uzastopna boravka na odjelu (uključujući Paxil, Lexapro i Haldol), nije mogao čak ni oblikovati koherentne odgovore kada su ga intervjuirali 2009. Nije mogao odgovoriti čak ni na nešto osnovno.


Evo video njega od ranije nakon preživljavanja pucnjave gdje je bio potpuno normalan i razuman, i video kasnije (2009) gdje više nije sav svoj.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ8zRjswZyk
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Old 08.03.2024., 09:50   #19
Malo o skandinavskom doprinosu ljuckim pravima.

Između 1966 i 1970, Danska je tajno, bez njihova znanja i pristanka, ugradila spirale čak polovini fertilnih žena Grenlanda kako bi spriječila začeće. sve odreda pripadnicama Inuita. Neke su imale tek 13 godina.

Sterilizacija je obavljena kako bi se spriječio rast domorodačke populacije Grenlanda, koja je tih godina doživljavala velii porast zbog boljih uvjeta života, dostupnosti više hrane te boljoj liječničkoj njezi.

https://www.sott.net/article/489520-...rol-experiment
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Colonial crimes: Greenland women sue Denmark over birth control experiment
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Tue, 05 Mar 2024

Over 100 Inuit claim they were forcibly fitted with contraceptive devices, local media have reported

A group of indigenous women in Greenland have sued Denmark over an involuntary contraception campaign aimed at limiting the birth rate in the Arctic territory in the 1960s and 1970s, Danish broadcaster DR reported on Monday.

The 143 Inuit women claim Danish health authorities violated their human rights when they fitted them with intrauterine contraceptive coil devices. The women are seeking total compensation of nearly 43 million kroner ($6.3 million).
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Records based on data from the national archives disclosed by the Danish broadcaster in 2022 revealed that 4,500 indigenous women, reportedly half of the fertile women in Greenland, became part of the involuntary contraception campaign.

Coil implants were fitted between 1966 and 1970 to women and girls as young as 13, without their consent or even knowledge in some cases. The small device, made from plastic and copper and fitted in the uterus, makes it difficult for sperm to fertilize an egg.

Denmark carried out the campaign secretly with the alleged purpose of limiting the rate of birth in Greenland by preventing pregnancies, the outlet said. The population on the Arctic island was booming at the time because of high living standards and better health care.
To nije sve. 1950-tih je uzeto (mahom nagovorima i obećanjima o boljim izgledima u životu) 22-dvoje djece Inuita, u dobi od 4 do 7 godina, odvedeno u Dansku na akulturaciju, slično kao "internati" za domoroce u USA i Kanadi, koji se danas smatraju klasičnim rasističkim užasom, no u dosta manjoj mjeri i u puno manjim brojevima. Većina je na kraju završila u grenlandskim sirotištima i rano poumirala.
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The case is not the first time Greenlandic people say they have suffered at the hands of Danish authorities.

In 2022, Denmark apologized and paid compensation to Inuits more than 70 years after a failed social experiment.

In 1951, 22 Inuit children were taken from their homeland to Denmark, enticed with the promise of a good education worthy of the country's future elite. Copenhagen intended for the children to return home as role models for Greenland. Only six are still alive today, all in their 70s.

Greenland was a Danish colony until 1953, after which it acquired home rule.
Drugi izvor.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...k-compensation
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At first, many parents refused to let their children go. But they eventually relented, after officials insisted the trip would be full of opportunities.

In Denmark, they lived with foster families and were banned from speaking Greenlandic. When they returned, rather than being sent back to schools as promised, they were sent to an orphanage.

The experience should have lasted six months, but 16 children, aged four to nine and from underprivileged backgrounds, returned after more than a year.

The other six remained in Denmark; Save the Children, which had green-lit the project, had arranged for them to be adopted by their foster families.
Baš je lijepo čuti Skandinavce da pričaju o ljuckim pravima.
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Old 08.03.2024., 10:11   #20
Spomenimo i jedan od najpoznatijih alternativnih mitova... tzv " ruski eksperment spavanja".
NAvodno je grupa savjetskih znanstvenika provodila eksperiment nad petoricom politickih zatvorenika drzeci ih budnim mjesec dana, a kako bi testirali efekte lisavanja sna na ljudski mozak.
SLuzbeno se eksperiment nikada nije dogodio i ne postoje nikakvi dokazi, ali u samoj prici je navedeno kako je na kraju vojska upala u prostorije gdje se eksperiment provodio ( Sibir) i sve spalila do temelja ukljucujuci i svu dokumentaciju jer eksperiment je naravno posao krivo.
Toliko je " ruski eksperiment spavanja" usao u legendu da je na tu temu snimljeno nekoliko horor filmova, a na youtube postoji bezbroj uradaka.
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